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Title: part of a tap n die set
Post by: skipskip on October 15, 2020, 09:48:42 PM
nice box, nicely made dies, and some taps

made by Wells Bros , Greenfield Mass

dont see a spot for the tools you need to turn them , perhaps came in another box?

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Title: Re: part of a tap n die set
Post by: oldgoaly on October 16, 2020, 07:58:14 AM
There is a Wells catalog from 1889 on archive.orgabout 13mb  file size. I downloaded a copy a year or so ago.
Title: Re: part of a tap n die set
Post by: Northwoods on October 16, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
I have the Little Giant T&D set No. 1.
Has five of each--1/4" through 1/2"--even has the gadget to use with a woodworker's brace.  I'm guessing it is not practical for two reasons: Other sets do not offer it, and the Japanning is near perfect.

And a reminder to use plenty of lard oil lubricant.
Title: Re: part of a tap n die set
Post by: lptools on October 16, 2020, 04:37:30 PM
Hello, Skip. I looked through quite a few catalogs, but could not find that configuration. Does the back groove, closest to the hinges have a divider? I'm thinking this would hold 10 taps, and 10 dies? Die stock sold separately? What diameter are the dies?  Maybe a special order set for a specific job or machine?
Title: Re: part of a tap n die set
Post by: humber2 on November 22, 2020, 11:22:44 PM
nice box, nicely made dies, and some taps

made by Wells Bros , Greenfield Mass

dont see a spot for the tools you need to turn them , perhaps came in another box?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50493189626_9aacbc3cb2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVUN7W)oct130 (https://flic.kr/p/2jVUN7W) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50492485548_29659afd1a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVRbPE)oct131 (https://flic.kr/p/2jVRbPE) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50493189426_22fd809416_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVUN4u)oct132 (https://flic.kr/p/2jVUN4u) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

The last pair of stocks and dies differ dramatically from the rest which became universally known as American Pattern.

Has anyone located the patents for them?
Title: Re: part of a tap n die set
Post by: humber2 on April 04, 2021, 11:20:21 PM
Bumping this as I'm still curious about the last two die stocks.

Yes, they use American style die pieces but the securing screw system has me intrigued.

Are the holders Wells make?
Title: Re: part of a tap n die set
Post by: skipskip on April 11, 2021, 07:20:47 AM
yes wells made

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there is no place for a handle in the box, what does it look like?