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CHAMPION DeARMENT hammer?

Started by Twilight Fenrir, May 08, 2017, 12:05:18 PM

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Twilight Fenrir

I picked up this (relatively) small hammer at a yard sale today... It seems very well made, and is stamped "CHAMPION   DeARMENT" (no, I didn't miss a "P" and the "E" is capital, but smaller than the others, like DeWalt)  but I'm unfamiliar with the purpose of the pein on this one... It looks as if someone took a normal cross pein, and ground out a semi-circle leaving a fairly sharp edge. But it was definitely manufactured this way...

Does anyone know what I have here?
Thanks




Bill Houghton

Huh.  It looks like a standard tinner's hammer - are you sure the grind on the cross pein is factory?

Twilight Fenrir

Quote from: Bill Houghton on May 08, 2017, 02:02:52 PM
Huh.  It looks like a standard tinner's hammer - are you sure the grind on the cross pein is factory?

Pretty sure... I'm having trouble with my phone uploading the other two pictures I have, one of which shows the pein more clearly, I'll fiddle with it some more when I get a chance this evening.

If it's not factory, it was done by a skilled machinist.

rustyfordgarage

Would later be known as the Channellock Company.  From the picture I see it looks like a tinners hammer that was chipped and ground.     

Twilight Fenrir

#4
Okay, here's a shot of the pein...

What I would expect to be a positive curved surface is concave instead...



Bill Houghton

Well, that is a puzzle.  Getting comfy on the easy chair to watch the discussion here - no idea what that shape would be optimal for.

lptools

Rolled? Hemmed? Edge on sheet metal????
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oldgoaly

#7
To finish or close a wire edge.
Seems to me I just had a pliers or tongs marked the same? in the fall of last year?
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wvtools

According to the EAIA Toolmaker's Directory, made between 1927 and 1960.

Twilight Fenrir

Quote from: oldgoaly on May 09, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
To finish or close a wire edge.
Seems to me I just had a pliers or tongs marked the same? in the fall of last year?
Is that a guess, or a definitive answer? Certainly sounds plausible. Though I wonder how useful it would be on curved surfaces...

Quote from: wvtools on May 09, 2017, 04:42:14 PM
According to the EAIA Toolmaker's Directory, made between 1927 and 1960.
Yeah, I did a little research on that end... Champion DeArment was previously a small smithy that grew to become the Champion Bolt and Clipper Company. In 1923 the company moved to a larger facility, and changed their name to Champion DeArment Tool Company. Then, in 1963 they changed their name again to Channellock, capitalizing on the ubiquity of their patented grove-joint pliers.

oldgoaly

Educated guess, haven't seen one like that, but have done lots of wired edges. You are taught to use the chisel end, so did it work? probably wasn't a big seller. Some people modify a linesman's pliers to finish the wired edge, there is a hand cranked set of dies for the easy edgers / jenny's. Probably the closest thing I have seen to the end is the a set of pullmax dies I made to finish the wired edge on a late 20's Chrysler fenders.  I've got ??? about 5 or 6 tinner's hammers none with a concave edge.
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Twilight Fenrir

Quote from: oldgoaly on May 09, 2017, 05:42:34 PM
Educated guess, haven't seen one like that, but have done lots of wired edges. You are taught to use the chisel end, so did it work? probably wasn't a big seller. Some people modify a linesman's pliers to finish the wired edge, there is a hand cranked set of dies for the easy edgers / jenny's. Probably the closest thing I have seen to the end is the a set of pullmax dies I made to finish the wired edge on a late 20's Chrysler fenders.  I've got ??? about 5 or 6 tinner's hammers none with a concave edge.
Very interesting, thanks!