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Offline 1930

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« on: August 01, 2011, 11:43:52 AM »
Researching a jack that was found in a 28 Victory six, it has patents .....Pat 1441963-RE 16327  ......written on it.
From what I have learned here the 16327 is a re-issue date and it would appear that was granted April 20 1926 so there is a possability that this is a candidate for the correct jack if I am understanding this correctly????Am I understanding/reading this patent correctly??
It also states patent pending, what exactly might that mean, is that another improvement that was made or was it a number that would replace the re-issue #
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Re: Patents
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 06:00:55 PM »

RE 16327  was a reissue , issued in 1926 of patent 1409861  which was issued in 1922.


1441963 is a different patent, which makes sense, when you get a reissue, the original patent is expired, so there is no point putting it's number on something.
1441963 was issued 1923, F.J. Bullis, for a jack also

>It also states patent pending, what exactly might that mean, is that another improvement that was made or was it a number >that would replace the re-issue #

Not a replacment to the reissue, the reissue is issued, it's not pending, there is yet another patent involved ....
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Re: Patents
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 06:03:09 AM »
Quote ...........RE 16327  was a reissue , issued in 1926 of patent 1409861  which was issued in 1922............I see this now and get this, I think you mentioned in another post that often times the inventor would/could get multiple re-issues if an improvement was made. Would all of these re-issue #s be reflected on all of the patent papers avail. From what I have noticed I think not.

1441963 and 16327 show up on the same jack or so I am told, how could this be from two different inventors
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 06:09:43 PM »
>Would all of these re-issue #s be reflected on all of the patent papers avail

They should be, but, there is of course no way to know what patents apply that were not marked...
You can only get one reissue at one period of time, the reissue extends the life of the original patent, and expires it, so overall there is only one active patent. However, one inventor can certainly have multiple primary patents for different parts of a thing as long as each part is novel and new.  And, each of those can possibly be reissued....(or could, we are talking 1920's patent rules here, which aren't the same as todays rules btw)

>how could this be from two different inventors

Easily, and common, some company licences both inventors improvments for different parts of the jack and combines them into one product.

Modern automobiles have hundreds of patents by different people reflected in the parts as assembled...

It may be that, for example, one patent applies to only the screw mechanism, and the other applies only to the lifting foot assembly...you will have to read the fine print in the patents to see what exactly each covered.

While rare, it is also possible to have 2 patents that overlap in a way that makes each of them only safe to use if you licence both, because either alone may be infringing on the other, this isn't really supposed to happen, but there are cases where it has...
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 07:12:23 PM »
I see, very nice. Thank-you
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