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Offline stretch51

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mandrels
« on: February 20, 2014, 10:52:45 AM »
I am looking for a Vermont American mandrel #18410, for the bimetal hole saws.  Does anyone know where I can get one?  Thank you.

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Re: mandrels
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 11:36:23 AM »
Yo Stretch
 Welcome aboard tool talk

  But you are going to have to do a lot better than cite a catalog number.
None of us here are retail shopping mauls that catalog numbers make any difference to.
 
 Show us a picture of the saws and tell us the story of why we should care. If you do that someone will probably help you.
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Re: mandrels
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 05:21:45 PM »
I am looking for a Vermont American mandrel #18410, for the bimetal hole saws.  Does anyone know where I can get one?  Thank you.

Scottg is right, need more info on the mandrel. Looked up Vermont American mandrel #18410 & couldn't find useable info on what it is..
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Re: mandrels
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 06:28:31 PM »
Mandrels or arbors as they are also called are usually interchangeable with various hole saw manufactures. I looked at they Vermont American web site and they don't list a 18410 Mandrel/arbor. Some of the newer style arbors have pins that engage the top of the hole saw to transfer the driving torque instead of relying on the threads of the mandrel/arbor. This makes changing to a different size hole saw much easier. 

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Re: mandrels
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 09:41:51 AM »
I am looking for a Vermont American mandrel #18410, for the bimetal hole saws.  Does anyone know where I can get one?  Thank you.

I Googled exactly the info in your post and found the link below.


 http://www.vermontamerican.com/NR/rdonlyres/389B9641-1318-4579-BA6F-9AA97B067518/0/VAKC_HoleSawSystChoice.PDF

They have everything but the# 18410 -- are you sure you have stated the correct number.

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Re: mandrels
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 02:23:21 PM »
Arbor: for holding a tool.
Mandrel: for holding a workpiece.

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Re: mandrels
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 07:21:57 PM »
Arbor: for holding a tool.
Mandrel: for holding a workpiece.

All due respect!!!  :) But Vermont American is VERY confused (among other major vendors) if you are correct. You better call them and tell them to change their tooling listings and web-site. I really think from everything I have heard in the past, they are the same or very similar and it depends on the particular industry or process being done. It has always seemed to be a selective term having the same concept.
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Re: mandrels
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 04:13:44 PM »
Arbor: for holding a tool.
Mandrel: for holding a workpiece.

All due respect!!!  :)

Nothing personal and my post was not particularly toward you.
I was just adding some useless info for what it's worth as many folks find the arbor/mandrel issue confusing.

While the terms are often confused and used incorrectly, even by tool companies, that concept of work piece vs tool can help clarify things.

But in the end, I was 'just sayin'.

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Re: mandrels
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 06:22:55 PM »
I think you'll find that the arbors are interchangeable among the different manufacturers.  I use a Millwaukee arbor with my Blue Mole hole saws and it fit's OK.

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Re: mandrels
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 03:43:50 AM »
I think you'll find that the arbors are interchangeable among the different manufacturers.  I use a Millwaukee arbor with my Blue Mole hole saws and it fit's OK.

Mike

In my bin of hole saws / arbors there are several kinds.  The common ones we use have 2 sizes, one for larger hole saws and one for smaller (<1" or so).  Like Mike said, they interchange with each other, at least the quality ones do.
The small just screws in, the larger has the stop pins that make it a lot easier removing the hole saw later.

  I have some funky ones, one mandrel has flat sides on a round hole with no screw threads on the bit.  The other kind has the thin saw blades nested together on a drive arbor that is supposed too hold one blade at a time, never used this kind and it looks cheap.  Vermont american is not necessarily a quality tool.

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