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Offline Charles Garrett

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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2014, 06:25:10 PM »
My W Snap on set is in torage now.  My son said he saved it when they cleaned out my house last year. I bot it at Brownie Betar's sale in Florida some years ago.  It is 1/2 drive  Chuck Garrett

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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2014, 08:13:35 PM »
Well, I said the little Ford script wrenches seemed to fit Whitworth bolts.  Maybe not... I tried a nice example and it did not fit the 5/16 BS and it was awful loose on the 1/4 BS nuts.  Perhaps the one in my tool kit is worn and fit the 5/16 BS.

Here are some photos - purchased in the 80's when I could afford to buy stuff like this - I was married shortly after this and made fewer visits to the Snap-On truck.

7 Snap-On in "script" combi's 3/16 thru 7/16 BS.  Used often except for the smaller sizes.  In back on left is the Snappy box end marked in Whitworth 5/16 and 3/8.  In back are three 1/2" wrenches converted to 5/16 BS obstruction wrenches.  A necessity to reach the carb mount nuts and cylinder head bolts on the Royal Enfield.

To the right of the shiny Snap-Ons are four Superslim Made in England - very nice wrenches,  two Snail brand wrenches - strong but clunky to use. Last on the right is a Vlchek 5/8 and 9/16 BS.  Other wrenches in back are odds and ends but there's a BSA multi wrench that fits spokes.

A set of 12 Snap-On (script) 3/8 drive sockets crammed into a genuine Snappy tray, 4BA to 9/16 BS.  The 5 piece 1/4 drive set is the later angular Snap-On lettering, 2 BA thru 3/8 BS.

Close-up of a 3/8 drive.
So not much of a collection but a well stocked working tool box drawer.  Having these at hand made rebuilding the Enfield almost easy.
Al

The following may come under the heading of too much information:
I can't give speciifics on Whitworth sizes compared to inch.  I know some of the larger bolts will fit inch tools nicely.  The smaller common sizes like 1/4, 5/16, 3/8 and 7/16 will give you fits if you don't have a proper wrench.  For example a 5/16 BS bolt will probably not take a 1/2" wrench, it might take a 13mm but chances are you will not get by with either size.  The better made the inch or metric tool the least likely it is to fit a BS bolt.
The similarity of Whitworth to British Standard (BS) is that both are numbered for the size of the bolt thread (5/16 BS fits a 5/16 diameter thread bolt or nut).  The difference is that Whitworth bolts have larger heads - hence a 1/4 Whitworth wrench can be used on a 5/16 British Standard bolt/nut. 
Most of the threads on the Royal Enfield and my Triumph Cub are British Standard Cycle (also called CEI -  Cycle Engineers Institute).  This thread form fits British Standard wrench sizes.  Most common BSC sizes use 26 TPI - 5/16 -26, 3/8-26 etc.

Al
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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 01:23:05 AM »
"The following may come under the heading of too much information:"

That pretty much sums up everything I post!   :embarrassed:

I found the info helpful and one of the best explanations I have heard regarding those Whitworth tools.

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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2014, 11:49:07 AM »
Thanks, Larry.  It's not easy when you've forgotten more stuff than you can remember.
Al.

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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2014, 04:59:04 PM »
if you want more here's a link to a little history
               http://www.team.net/sol/tech/whitworth-hist.html

and here is a chart of Whitworth and BS with inch and metric measurements
              http://www.samstagsales.com/whitworth_table.htm

Bill
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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2014, 06:51:41 PM »
So not much of a collection but a well stocked working tool box drawer.

Nice collection, I'd say!

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Offline Charles Garrett

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Re: britool socket set
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 10:52:54 AM »
The Ford model T at least early on required /32 size wrenchs which were American sizes for W or metric.  don't remember which.   Chuck Garrett