Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52

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this one looks  like a few others but not quite.

any ideas?
thanks

DSCF1868 by Skip Albright, on Flickr

DSCF1867 by Skip Albright, on Flickr

[kwoswalt99]

That's the mysterious w mark that we couldn't agree upon who made it.

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I thought I remembered a discussion  but I cant find it.

[kwoswalt99]

The latest is here: http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=29407.0

[3baygarage]

As KW posted, this topic came up recently.

I have some questions if you don't mind.

First, any way you can add a photo of the drive side of the head?

Are there markings around the bottom of the handle?

The handle end certainly looks like Duro Chrome/Indestro however the transition from the beam to handle seems different.

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As KW posted, this topic came up recently.

I have some questions if you don't mind.

no mind here

First, any way you can add a photo of the drive side of the head?

DSCF1899 by Skip Albright, on Flickr

Are there markings around the bottom of the handle?

no

The handle end certainly looks like Duro Chrome/Indestro however the transition from the beam to handle seems different.

yes the end looks like Industro, but no marks at all on end of ratchet

drive side says Pat Pend

[3baygarage]

Thanks. Very hard to tell but that side there reminds me of a Crescent ratchet.

I was curious if it happened to be this patent issued to JH Williams:

https://www.google.co.in/patents/US2706424?dq=US2706424+A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip1caN6InQAhUJ1CYKHSjfD1wQ6AEIGzAA

Oddly, the later Crescent Niagara patent  http://www.google.com/patents/US2982161 cites another patent belonging to the inventor of the above Williams patent ratchet.

This is too deep for me. Normally I can just look and tell but nothing conclusive here. Staring at patent sketches too long can drive a guy nuts.

[kwoswalt99]

I think you found it.

[bill300d]

With out seeing the inside of that ratchet you will never know if either one of those pertain or not. Both patents are for the drive mechanism, nothing to do with the design of the ratchet its self.

[kwoswalt99]

With out seeing the inside of that ratchet you will never know if either one of those pertain or not. Both patents are for the drive mechanism, nothing to do with the design of the ratchet its self.

Yeah, but they look identical.