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Offline international3414

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3 old tools unknown
« on: December 01, 2017, 04:13:21 PM »
picked em up today for $5,sept 22 1891 OO pliers,couldnt find that patent,maybe pipe wrench.
hammer like tool,can opener?
113 wrench with tit and round open end,about 4.5" long
any ideas?,if the pictures work

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 04:42:08 PM »
go to DATAMP and put in patent # 460,015

 pipe tongs patented by George W. Johnson, Erie, PA

  NOT KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN PRODUCED

 Stan will put your picture on DATAMP after verifying yours to the patent

  you may have a sleeper,  Frank

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 05:07:34 PM »
The device with the hammer, is a tack puller patented by George Capewell. No. 501,919. See DATAMP link below. Unfortunately, it is missing a part.

http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=501919&id=11056&set=15

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 05:59:05 PM »
The bottom pic, I believe, is a proto type vasectomy tool for use in the frontier era.
(couldn't wait till April Fools day)

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2017, 06:28:51 PM »
yep thats the johnson tool,not sure why i couldn't find that,.,,thanks!!

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 09:42:39 PM »
The bottom pic, I believe, is a proto type vasectomy tool for use in the frontier era.
(couldn't wait till April Fools day)
yep thats the johnson tool,not sure why i couldn't find that,.,,thanks!!
I am entertained that these two posts went up on this thread one right after the other.

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2017, 07:20:41 AM »
Just because we by a lot of rust doesn't mean we are rusty.

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2017, 01:29:55 PM »
 If you would dust out the part number on the bottom one we might be able to identify it also.
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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2017, 02:51:29 PM »
the wrench number is 113,would fit a 1/2" square nut,the other end would fit a round nut???????????? :shocked:

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2017, 04:25:15 PM »
I have a wrench like the last one.  Very interested in what it came with.
The only bad tool is the one that couldn't finish the job.  Ironicly it may be the best tool for the next job.

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 12:06:20 AM »
go to DATAMP and put in patent # 460,015

 pipe tongs patented by George W. Johnson, Erie, PA

  NOT KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN PRODUCED

 Stan will put your picture on DATAMP after verifying yours to the patent

  you may have a sleeper,  Frank

Stan has not been reading Tool Talk lately -- have to get caught up. 
The Johnson pipe tongs is nice -- based on the Capewell tack puller & hammer & the #113 wrench, it must be in the 7 inch size range.  If this is size 00 I wonder what other sizes were made.  It will get updated in DATAMP & appear in the March MVWC newsletter.
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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 05:17:16 AM »
Any clues to what the 113 wrench was used on?   Mine is about 5" long. 
The only bad tool is the one that couldn't finish the job.  Ironicly it may be the best tool for the next job.

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2017, 08:53:18 AM »
Can you imagine what the round open end does.?

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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2017, 10:35:14 AM »
It may not be the right size, but the round end would work on a Model T front wheel bearing type of application where two sides are flat and two sides are rounded. I don't know if other cars had that shape bearing.
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Re: 3 old tools unknown
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2017, 05:30:21 PM »
The 90 degree turn suggests limited access.  The fact it is cast suggests farm wrench of some sort. 
   Forged wrenches dominated the T tools with stamped steel the other option.   

   It does resemble a cam-eccentric adjustment wrench like used in early drum brakes (or other devices where a tolerance might have to be adjusted) as used on Chevrolet cars.

    I lean toward a farm type wrench but no clue beyond that.
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