things that p--s you off

[Aunt Phil]

How to phrase it so it don't trip Pawpaw's political detector~

Two full generations of children raised in the impact free school of childrearing have given America a large population of enstupified creatures devoid of any common sense slapped into them.

Sumbeach wouldn't have left my place with them plow shoes, I might have improved his plow too with a torch.

[Stoney]

Here ! Here ! Well said Aunt Phil.

[dimwittedmoose51]

Well, the shoes metaphor brings back this old quote from someone wiser than me." I felt sorry for myself because I had no shoes.....until I met a man that had no feet."

..and as far as those subsequent generations, my wife is totally disgusted with their attitudes even at church.  They have no do-it-yourself mentality, they'd rather pay someone else to do it, whether the church budget can afford it or not.  At her para-educator job in the local school district, she's sewing/altering teachers(making 4 times what she's making BTW) clothing because they never learned how when growing up. 

If this most-recent/current recession didn't wake some folks up, then it didn't last long enough or spiral downward enough.

When someone offers me something they think I can use,  99% of the time I take it, thank them, and make sure they know that If I can't put it to good use, I'll find someone that will.  Hell, even Goodwill is getting picky about what they'll take for"donations".   They have a long list of "No-No's" on the back door at our local center.  Ironically, I was shocked when they took 3 pr. of my old athletic shoes the other day.  After all, one shoe had a broken lace.....

DM&FS

[bird]

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cheers, bird

[anglesmith]

Moose51
 My father use to quote a version of that when I was young, wasn't till years later that I realised that he'd experienced both. Born in 1901 he went to school without shoes and as a teenager saw men coming back from the 14-18 war with missing limbs. The other old one about "not looking a gift horse in the mouth" also applies.
Graeme

[amertrac]

boy am I glad i wasn't alone in the way I feel.bob w.

[Nolatoolguy]

Personally I dont think its right to complain about something for free expecially if its something you could use. Most of the time something half worn out works better then having none.

It would of bothered me to. I dont know if I would of lost sleep but it would of bothered me. You have to pick and choose your battles and what bothers you.

[rusty]

Unfortunatly, until you can properly answer the question "Why shouldn't it be all about me?', you have no chance of answering any of the other questions in life, like 'What should I do when someone gives me something I don't really want?'

We seem to have raised several generations of self absorbed hedonists, and I don't really know where it goes from here :(

We have built the New Rome, and it is heading where the old Rome went....
But who bothers reading history these days? It's boring and irrelevant...isn't it?

[Papaw]

History has a way of repeating itself all the time.
I certainly remember my folks worrying about my generation, just as I worried about my boys, and the one son that has a son worries about him.

[bird]

Unfortunatly, until you can properly answer the question "Why shouldn't it be all about me?', you have no chance of answering any of the other questions in life, like 'What should I do when someone gives me something I don't really want?'

We seem to have raised several generations of self absorbed hedonists, and I don't really know where it goes from here :(

We have built the New Rome, and it is heading where the old Rome went....
But who bothers reading history these days? It's boring and irrelevant...isn't it?

Speaking of history, my friend and her semi-adopted daughter, T, just left my house. She had to make a diorama of Jamestown. I asked her if I could look at her text book. I was astounded!!!!!  Man, you wouldn't believe the quality of those books... the pages look and feel almost like they are laminated! I started reading the book, ......  nothing like what I was taught as a kid..
    There's just a few pages on Jamestown. But, the books talk about the new "settlers" and how they "ran the Indians out"  when "all the Indians were doing was living in the land that was theirs"!!!!!!
     Wow.... doesn't quite measure up to playing cowboy and indians when I was a kid.  No one ever told me the Indians were there first, and the land was rightfully theirs!
    I was very impressed! What a different world.... too bad there's a disconnect between kids, learning, parents, the world, government.... OK, this ramble could last another three days. I'll stop now.
History is skewed by who teaches us the history, what we read, who believe....  OK, I already said I was going to shut up... BOY that's hard for me to do!
cheers,
bird

[Neals]

Its human nature to wonder what will become of the next generation. Doing genealogy I was reading a book from the late 1800's. It said the younger generation was going to h*ll. It was quoting a book from the late 1600's. I know my father said the same of my generation.

[bird]

Its human nature to wonder what will become of the next generation. Doing genealogy I was reading a book from the late 1800's. It said the younger generation was going to h*ll. It was quoting a book from the late 1600's. I know my father said the same of my generation.

I'd be willing to bet my generation is on the way there.
cheers,
bird

[Branson]

I'd be willing to bet my generation is on the way there.
cheers,
bird

Come on in; the water's fine.

[Aunt Phil]

There will never be understanding by the white man of an Indian's concept of "land ownership".

The white man has some need for pieces of paper and measuring instruments to define to the tenth of an inch what is his.  The Indian sees the Earth as his mother who provides for him and finds no necessity to erect fences or define borders.

The situation is akin to the disparity in definition of wealth between the two people.  To the white man wealth is what he possesses, to the Indian wealth is what he has to give to someone who needs it.

I'm sure books have been written on the subject, and I'm certain as well agreement will never be reached.
I'm more certain a hell of a lot of money is made writing books of adjusted history.

[Branson]

There will never be understanding by the white man of an Indian's concept of "land ownership".
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The white man has some need for pieces of paper and measuring instruments to define to the tenth of an inch what is his.  The Indian sees the Earth as his mother who provides for him and finds no necessity to erect fences or define borders.

Land ownership is an alien concept among most Indian peoples I know.  Rights for land use, though, was a big item.  Ojibwa had a whole bureaucracy set up to deal with hunting rights on different tracts of land.  But nobody *owned* land in North America before the coming of Europeans.   

>But, the books talk about the new "settlers" and how they "ran the Indians out"  when "all the Indians were doing was living in the land that was theirs"!!!!!!

I find this kind of book just a bit on the simplistic side.  Good guys/Bad guys stuff is seldom accurate.  Different cultural values in conflict is what I see.  Not to diminish the damage done to the various Indian peoples here, but it was a good deal more complicated than Good guys/Bad guys.   A good remedy would be reading the Journals of Lewis and Clark.  They dealt with Indians as people deal with other nations, with a great deal of respect.