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Started by OilyRascal, May 07, 2012, 09:07:38 AM

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scottg


That is the only Wiss utility knife I have ever seen.
Not that I have seen everything, but I'd have seen it if it were a really common a tool.

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OilyRascal

Thank you all for the helpful comments. 

Quote from: john k on May 07, 2012, 12:17:27 PM
PLus ratchet?   Still digging out the truck aren't you?  That Craftsman 1/2 on the right is a twin to the one that walked out of my toolbox last winter.  I got a feeling there is more to come.

:) @ "Still digging out.." - That Craftsman 1/2" drive is one of the few I've seen with an oil hole/ball on the end.  I like it.

Quote from: johnsironsanctuary on May 07, 2012, 11:44:00 AM
The 'Deal of the day' is a set of precision ground and hardened Go-No Go guages used to inspect bored holes. The bent T bars are for making a quick check to see if you are close.

Thank you for the information!  I can see that use, but the protective layer (of epoxy?) is really throwing the idea of "precision" out the window for me.  I suppose maybe these have just not been used and the protective layer is expected to just peel away on first use, or molds to the bore?

Quote from: Lewill2 on May 07, 2012, 12:56:07 PM
The 2 in the lower left corner look like pipe jaws for a small vice.

I had the same thought yesterday.  After putting the jaw faces together on the two it became clear there is a bolt hole machined through the two.  Now the question is - who's vice will get fixed with those parts.  I wonder if I'd be lucky enough for them to fit that post vise found in the garden?

Quote from: 1930 on May 07, 2012, 05:01:56 PM
8th picture down 2nd frame below the pile of sockets, the little flat wrench with the # 1 stamped into it, this is what I collect and I would like to have it if it is available. Thanks

It is conditionally yours if that is what you collect, but it has markings of "11" not "1".  I'd only ask to be educated on the wrench (age, use, etc.) and we can do that offline in a PM if you'd rather.

Quote from: sumner52000 on May 07, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Did you get any sockets to go with the Mac alignment ratchet?  I have the same ratchet but only one socket.

I have 7 sockets/attachments that fit the ratchet (and no use for any of it).  I'd rather if you take one that you take them all (including ratchet), so I don't end up with a ratchet and no sockets :)

Quote from: scottg on May 07, 2012, 11:23:31 PM

That is the only Wiss utility knife I have ever seen.

I hadn't seen one either - probably doesn't mean a lot coming from me either.  That blade sticking out haunted me from the time I picked it up until the moment yesterday I could pull it out.

"FORGED IN THE USA" myself.  Be good to your tools!

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Branson

>Bottom center is used in sharpening timber saws (like the big cross-cut timber saws) and adjusts to set the proper filing for, if I recall correctly, the raker teeth. 

Not just the big boy saws.  It joints the teeth on panel saws and dovetail saws, too.  That's the first step in sharpening a saw so that it doesn't get all fish bellied with repeated sharpenings.  I have a saw that at some point belonged to a fellow who didn't believe in jointing the teeth -- set it on a flat surface and there's about half an inch gap in the middle.

1930

Wow, you are right, double stamp, I just blew it up and see the 11.

There is no doubt though that it is a 1. I have nothing to hide except that I collect these because I enjoy them and they are part of original early Dodge/Chrysler tool kits.

They will not be sold unless I were to find a person that would appreciate having a correct tool-kit with their car and too this point I have only found one such nut and we traded his earlier number one for my later which is what he needed so no money was ever exchanged.

Your not going to see them on e-bay is my point, I have a nice display case for them in my living room.

Different cars have different tool kits and different number wrenches and as far as I know no-one ( and believe me I have searched for anyone else that cared to find the info ) has much of a clue as to what wrenches went where. ( except myself )

There were a couple of variations of the number 1, ( and the number twos and threes and 4s ) yours is the more common but it is the first I have seen in maybe 6 months so I guess Rusty may be right about me cornering the market :)

Your wrench off the top of my head and without looking into my data was first seen in late 27 might be 28, prior to that was a similar looking number 1 but had smaller jaw openings and would have been used possibly on some of the very last Maxwells and or the later 24 early 25 Chrysler's.

They increased the jaw opening to accommodate a larger car with larger hardware.

Your #1 wrench was used right up until the mid thirties, off the top of my head I seem to remember 34 but it may have been 36. At that point they discontinued the stamped wrench and went with the more conventional wrenches we see today.

Very few of these wrenches have survived because they were from the beginning junk, imagine getting stuck at the side of the road and having to repair your car with these little wrenches, garbage, so they were prob. chucked at the first sight of a skinned knuckle.

Thank-you for the kind offer and let me know what you need from me, you have my address but just in case my e-mail is jhason2@yahoo.com

I will post a picture in a bit of the two #1s side by side, find me the earlier #1 and then weill call out Bingo

Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

OilyRascal

Quote from: 1930 on May 08, 2012, 05:33:49 PM
There were a couple of variations of the number 1.....................

<pulls hat off> It amazes me that anybody understands those wrenches and their original distribution.  I hope that you are, or will be, in a position to permanently document your findings/knowledge so that it isn't lost again.  I'd certainly be interested in understanding your work better.

I'm happy it has found it's home.  I still have your address on record.  I will mail it to you tomorrow and email a tracking #.
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1930

Just an FYI to everyone, Derek already sent me tracking information for the wrench, less than an hour ago I made my last post concerning it. Stand up guy like many of you, thank-you
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

I received that wrench today and thanks, I wanted to post the two #1s side by side and I hope you guys can make out the difference in the beefiness of the bodies between the wrenches.

The one that is similar to what Derek sent is the bottom wrench and the harder to find is the top. The top wrench when found has always been ground open to accept a larger fastner. Originally it would have been 7/16 5/8.

I would like to find more of these, prefer un-molested but I will take them either way
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.