Clutch cable

anglesmith · May 30, 2012, 07:22:00 PM

Lasyassforge's method will work just great. I used to do the same with the gear change cable on Vespa scooters. It is amazing how stong the soldered joint is if everything is well cleaned and fluxed.
Graeme

lauver · May 30, 2012, 07:46:06 PM

1930,

The early VW's used clutch cables. The cables were your standard braided steel, but both ends of the cable terminated in about 1.5" long threaded rod. The hex nuts, used at both ends, looked like a half ball bearing with a thru hole drilled to accept the threaded rod. The pedal lever and the clutch throw out lever were machined to accept the ball joint/hex nut.

I think a VW clutch cable with two nuts might get you where you need to go. You could fab up the rest (the female part of the ball joint) on your clutch pedal lever and throwout lever. The cable and nuts can probably still be had on the aftermarket.

If you are having trouble visualizing this arrangement, grab an old VW shop manuel at the library.

Hope this helps

OilyRascal · May 30, 2012, 08:02:49 PM

Quote from: 1930 on May 30, 2012, 07:17:18 PM
I almost sent you those pict to post for me tonight BTW

Anytime with pictures!

I'll have a look in the VW parts pile here at home in the old barn based on Lauver's note. The only other thought I have is the early model (late 40s?) IH truck and a 55? Ford F1 at the shop. Most of the other stuff there is 60's, and later. I'll have a stroll to look but you pay for Dr. bill when I get stung, bit, or mangled :)

1930 · May 30, 2012, 08:17:03 PM

Quote from: lauver on May 30, 2012, 07:46:06 PM
1930,

The early VW's used clutch cables. The cables were your standard braided steel, but both ends of the cable terminated in about 1.5" long threaded rod. The hex nuts, used at both ends, looked like a half ball bearing with a thru hole drilled to accept the threaded rod. The pedal lever and the clutch throw out lever were machined to accept the ball joint/hex nut.

I think a VW clutch cable with two nuts might get you where you need to go. You could fab up the rest (the female part of the ball joint) on your clutch pedal lever and throwout lever. The cable and nuts can probably still be had on the aftermarket.

If you are having trouble visualizing this arrangement, grab an old VW shop manuel at the library.

Hope this helps

Thanks for reminding me of this, I have considered this, I was at one time a bug man and enjoy them still. I am a little concerned over the differences in pressure required between the two clutches though and that is why I guess I dismissed it but I guess I need to look into this further.

1930 · May 30, 2012, 08:18:10 PM

Quote from: anglesmith on May 30, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
Lasyassforge's method will work just great. I used to do the same with the gear change cable on Vespa scooters. It is amazing how stong the soldered joint is if everything is well cleaned and fluxed.
Graeme

I can weld but soldering is a problem for me, still something worth look at though

1930 · May 30, 2012, 08:21:29 PM

Lauver, ( or anyone ) are you aware of a bug with a heavier clutch, ( than standard ) maybe a particular series or year ?

If anyone has the bug diagram or maybe if Rusty ( or any other of you comp. gods ) has the time to post it here ( avail somewhere on-line I am sure ) so I can see ( remind myself ) how this worked and looked than that would be great.

OilyRascal · May 30, 2012, 08:38:41 PM

A higher quality photo

rusty · May 30, 2012, 09:50:02 PM

I couldn't find a decent picture, but I did notice something, the bug clutch cable isn't a sheathed cable, it goes in a tube. Dunno if it is going to do what you want or not...

If it is, you might also look at dune buggy parts places, I saw several special clutch adaptor kits.....

Bus · May 31, 2012, 01:10:13 AM

VW bug cable probably wouldn't be long enough but you could try a VW van cable. They do go thru tubes but I have tack welded new tubes when converting VWs with automatic transmissions to standard.

1930 · May 31, 2012, 04:42:40 AM

Quote from: rusty on May 30, 2012, 09:50:02 PM

I couldn't find a decent picture, but I did notice something, the bug clutch cable isn't a sheathed cable, it goes in a tube. Dunno if it is going to do what you want or not...

If it is, you might also look at dune buggy parts places, I saw several special clutch adaptor kits.....

Thanks for looking

1930 · May 31, 2012, 04:45:23 AM

Quote from: Bus on May 31, 2012, 01:10:13 AM
VW bug cable probably wouldn't be longenough but you could try as VW van cable. They do go thru tubes but I have tack welded new tubes when converting VWs with automatic transmissions to standard.

Yes I thought Bus cable also and I am not worried about the tube as I can work with a fuel line or brake line to protect the cable. I guess you are sayig Bus,es also came with sticks, thats good to know.

There is a VW specialist on my way home, will start there this evening

1930 · May 31, 2012, 05:01:56 AM

Oily, how do you post such big pictures, when I try and post a big picture it says file to large and even then they are much smaller than some of the stuff you are posting.

I only participate on one other forum besides ( on an every day basis ) this one but I have no problems there.

Papaw · May 31, 2012, 05:25:07 AM

If you post pictures of about 800x600, they will show up fine.

ray · May 31, 2012, 06:00:07 AM

Way back in time, my brother and I put a Ford Flat head engine in a Willies Areo Coupe, we used
2 "I" bolts and a very short lenght of 1/4 inch chain, for the the clutch linkage.

The Front suspension broke before we could get it on the road. Most likely saved our lives.

Ray

eddie hudson · May 31, 2012, 06:12:11 AM

Do a search for "Green Auto Parts" they have tons of NOS Ford cars & trucks parts.

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