Author Topic: Billhooks or Fascine Knives (Serpes, Roncole, Hippen, Podone, Kacor etc)  (Read 3201 times)

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Offline Billman49

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Hi

I collect billhooks, often called fascine knives in the USA, and wonder why these tools never became widespread in the USA or Canada, despite the influx of European immigrants who would have been familiar with them in the 'old country'. The military fascine knife seems the most common in the USA, but pre the mid 19th century all fruit trees and grape vines would have been pruned using one (the secateur was not invented until 1815, and did not become commonplace until the 1860's or later).

The billhook was included in the tools lists of immigrants from the UK, and later a few US edge tool makers did offer one in their catalogues. Its big brother, the bush (or brush) hook (c.f. the English long handed 'slasher', or the French 'croissant') is often seen, as are various shapes of sickles and corn knives, but rarely the billhook.

Go south of the border, into Mexico, and they become a commonly used tool... and some were made for the Italian wine growers in California (leather handled roncole). The Collins Axe Company sold one, but this was stamped 'Made in Germany'.... Curious....

If you happen to have one, I would be grateful for an image - post it here on the site, or send it via my website: www.billhooks.co.uk

If you are a non UK/USA resident and reading this, I am interested in the billhooks from other countries, and the local (or dialect) name used...
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Offline Branson

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>If you happen to have one, I would be grateful for an image - post it here on the site, or send it via my website:

As a matter of fact, I do have one.  I believe it was used in the vineyards, but I have no provenance for it -- it came in a box load of tools I got for the Osborn leather splitting gauge that was part of the batch of tools there.  No marks, blacksmith made.  I'll see if I can get a picture of it today.

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Here you go, Billman.  I have no provenance as I said -- it just happened to be in a box of tools I bought on eBay about 10 years ago.  It was covered in something caked on all over it thick enough that you couldn't make out the handle was wood.  The stuff could have been sap or pitch of some sort.  Blacksmith made, but the handle is pretty nicely turned so maybe commercially made.  Mexico?

Other countries.  I might find a picture of one from SE Asia that I'm familiar with.  About the size of a military billhook, heavy blade and hook.  Those I have handled were made by the Iu Mien in Laos.  I had to try to invent a spelling for their name (Needed to help them fill out government forms)  and came up with "dzu ngao."  They do use a Roman alphabet for some writing, but I don't know what that spelling might be.  I might still be able to find one of these to photograph.  I imagine the Hmong and other slash and burn agriculturalists in that area (Thailand, Burma, Laos, China, Viet-Nam) all use this tool.  Hmong versions are probably nearly identical to those of the Iu Mien.
 

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Here you go, Billman.  I have no provenance as I said -- it just happened to be in a box of tools I bought on eBay about 10 years ago.  It was covered in something caked on all over it thick enough that you couldn't make out the handle was wood.  The stuff could have been sap or pitch of some sort.  Blacksmith made, but the handle is pretty nicely turned so maybe commercially made.  Mexico?

Other countries.  I might find a picture of one from SE Asia that I'm familiar with.  About the size of a military billhook, heavy blade and hook.  Those I have handled were made by the Iu Mien in Laos.  I had to try to invent a spelling for their name (Needed to help them fill out government forms)  and came up with "dzu ngao."  They do use a Roman alphabet for some writing, but I don't know what that spelling might be.  I might still be able to find one of these to photograph.  I imagine the Hmong and other slash and burn agriculturalists in that area (Thailand, Burma, Laos, China, Viet-Nam) all use this tool.  Hmong versions are probably nearly identical to those of the Iu Mien.
OOH I do like that one, not that I do much roofing anymore but I guess I could see alot of other uses for that puppy besides that. I have never seen a knife like that, thanks for posting picture
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Here's another US billhook.  This one saw use as a military fascine during the American revolution.  It's probably around 18 inches in over all length.