BAHCO FIND

[Lewill2]

I forgot I never posted a picture of my Gedore.

[johnek]

Following up on this thread about the Bahco No 20 (Shark or Hajnyckel model) marked 4". Now that I have it I can tell you it is actually 6" long.

As you can see from the photo that shows the so-called 4" No 20 next to two 6" No 20s and a 6" No 30, they are the same length, namely 6".

My theory is, there is not any real 4" Bahco shark, and this issue must have resulted from mis-labelling.

Anyway, if you go by the numbering convention used at the time, a 4" would end in a 9, so a real 4" would have to be a No 19!

You can see from the recent results on Tradera that these are quite valuable, selling for a LOT more than the regular 6" No 20 or No 30. My opinion on this is be careful, it is a mislabel after all and so not one that belongs in a correct series of wrenches, and while they don't come up that often they are not particularly rare either.

[johnek]

Hello Bahco wrench enthusiasts,

We know that Generation 4 Bahcos were produced in two periods, 1954-1968 (alongside Generation 3) and 1969-1983. They are characterised by a handle which is wider at the end. The two types in each period were left hand (with the number 6) and right hand (with the number 9) threaded. The early ones were 669-675 (4" to 15") and 969-975 (4" to 15") and the later ones were identical but had a "0" prefix.

This is a summary of how easy or difficult it is to collect each of the 4 types, based on years of collection experience and observation:

0669 - 0675 - this series is by far the most common generation 4, and would make up 80% of the wrenches you come across
969 - 975 - the next most common, produced in the early period. Probably 15% of series 4 wrenches are this type
669 - 675 - harder to find, these never seemed to make it to Australia or the UK and are almost always only found on Swedish Ebay - possibly the next 4%
0969 - 0975 - These must have been produced in very small numbers, as they are very hard to find. Less than 1 in a 100 will be this type (ie 1%) and its not generally known that they are rare because they are often mistaken for the 0669-0675 series

[johnek]

Further to a previous post about a mythical 4" Bahco Shark, here is a No30 which is labelled 4" but is in fact 6" in length.

A number 30 is well known to be 6", as it should be by the labelling convention where (for the 15 deg heads) No69=4", No70=6", No71=8", etc. In the sharks (or Haj), we had No20 and later No30 as 6" models, then No21=8", No22=10" and No23=12".

Another very interesting example of a mislabel is this early generation 3, 12" No13, which never existed in any catalogue of course. It should be a No73 which would make it a nice but rather ordinary wrench from around 1924. Instead, this one is extremely rare and quite valuable.

[HenkkaFIN]

Hi. Just signed in. Amazing tools you have. I bought that 4" shark from flea market for 4€ and also wondering that 4" because from same market I bought 6" bahco and the lenght was about same. For some reason pictures are not loading well..

[HenkkaFIN]

I think file size is small enough now.

[HenkkaFIN]

And another.

[Yadda]

Nice finds! Welcome to Tool Talk.  If you get a chance go to the introduction thread and tell us about yourself!

[HenkkaFIN]

Hi guys. Now when we have some experts here, I would like to hear that am I right about the production year of this oldie bahco wrench.

It has those inch markings and I was told that they was dropped away in 1924. Is that so?? If it is, it's more awesome to work with that over 90years old peace.

[HenkkaFIN]

Any idea how old are theše bahco tools?? Pipewrenches 141&142 with bahco stockholm markings and ratchet with green end.

I have heard that mayby Facom have made that ratchet. I'm not sure. I think it's from 80's or 90's. Any information how I know the production year??

Same issue with those pipewrenches. I know they are not that old, but it would be nice to know how old are they. I faund them from two differen flea markets in a same day.

[johnek]

The Bahco 82 shown is the first of the 45 degree 'offset' models which were made from 1914 until 1924. They were made alongside the BAHCO-CLYBURN 15 degree models, and are probably the most desirable of these type, numbered 81 to 85. They are also characterised by a rounder fixed jaw, though it is sometimes harder to see the difference in jaw shape on the 45 degree models. The roundness of the fixed jaw in the BAHCO_CLYBURN models is more pronounced. After these you will find the whitworth size (5/8 inch in the case of a Bahco 82 - 10 inch) was dropped from the stamping. Your nice wrench has a matrix number 22 (I think) which places it somewhere in the middle to later of that period, possibly around 1920.

[johnek]

These pipe wrenches are found in my original Bahco catalogue which is dated 1929, so they must be before that

[HenkkaFIN]

Thank you for answers. I didn't know those pipewrenches were that old. Did they changed the model somehow after that 1929? Is it possible that they have made that same model longer because those wrenches doesn't feel that old on hands, altought it's nice to own a piece of that history, when nowadays almost all those bahco tools are made more or less cheap materials and quality isn't the same anymore.

[johnek]

This 6" Hajnyckel is very rare. Sold in May 2015 for AUD $275.

[seanbau]

I live in NSW, Australia and I'm currently packing to move when I came across an item I have been holding onto for maybe 30 years

It is an 24" Bahco 86 Wrench - Made in Sweden as pictured, it is marked as the 10B model making it very old generation 3 best I can find.

I was wondering if anyone might be in a position to give me an indication as to its value please


Cheers