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WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets

Started by kw573, March 27, 2017, 03:15:38 PM

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kw573

I'm building a military tool kit for my  WW2 Heavy Wrecker

DOE - not N4 - not vanadium - CI  - 5/16x3/8   3/8x7/16    7/16x1/2   1/2x19 32   9/16x5/8    9/16x11/16    5/8x25/32  11/16x7/8    3/4x13/16     3/4x7/8    15/16x1

DBE - stubby U/L Craftsman 3/8x7/16  1/2x9/16

Eg:








Sockets - 1/4"Dr  U/L Craftsman Circle H 6pt - 3/16  1/4  9/32.  12pt - 5/16   11/32   3/8 7/16

Eg:

 





Frustratingly I have bought expensive "just about right" tools from ebay which I will unload sometime.
Freight is the killer as I am in Australia.
   
More to be added later.

Sam.

amecks

Sam,  Can you post a photo example of what you're looking for? 
Thx
Al
Al
Jordan, NY

skipskip

wrong size, but do I have rest correct?

If so , I'll dig further

DSCF3541 by Skip Albright, on Flickr

DSCF3543 by Skip Albright, on Flickr


Skip
A place for everything and everything on the floor

kw573

Al

Skip has nailed it! Thanks.

The sizes seem a bit unusual to me but I'm no expert.

I'll add more sizes/etc as energy allows! :cheesy:

Thanks.
Sam.

skipskip

Sam:

I'll dig further for these.

Please do us all a favor and introduce yourself.

and tell us about military tool kits.

many of us save  what seem to be common tools hoping they will the right ones for a toolkit, but  the info is hard to come by.

Skip
A place for everything and everything on the floor

kw573

Glad to Skip.

But I have run out of time right now. So in the next  day or so.

Thanks.
Sam.

Bad 31

Sam, I find it amusing that you're looking for 1/4" drive sockets for a WW2 Heavy Wrecker. http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/Smileys/popos/grin.gif That's gotta be tuff finding vintage tools way down there. Shipping will be a killer. I had a friend down there that I shipped some plastic model car parts to and the shipping was more than the parts. Good luck!

kw573

Yes shipping is the killer. It doubles or triples the cost.
Just bought some heavy items from USA. cost=USD100. shipping=USD150.

Yes the big wrecker has 1/4"drive tools listed.

I have technology issues that make  typing very slow (some keys stopped working) so full reply awaits repairs.

Sam.

kw573

Technology issues fixed.

I'll put an introduction post in that section.
Sam.

kw573

Here is a picture from the Technical Manual (TM) of the hand tools box that mounts on the rear body of the M1A1.




And here is a picture of my Heavy Wrecker M1A1, off to a rally several years ago.




The tool box is a Plomb product, I don't know the model or anything else about it. But I did manage to get a hold of a tatty incomplete one to get me started.



Comments from those more knowledgeable than I?

Sam.

crankshaftdan II

Seems to be odd that you would have a Plvmb tool box with the C-man underline tools or am I off base-meaning that you are just using a used Plvmb box until you find the political C-Man box?   I have never seen a C-man box that was marked as of that vintage with a underline marking on same??   Maybe some of the other tool gods can chime in on this one!
E-mail address  dhdslimbow@yahoo.com
Looking for USA made ratchets-all sizes-drives and lengths  also S-K SuperKrome wrenches ditto.  Like to trade vs buy run it past me-nothing is cut in stone!

lptools

Could that just be the way that the truck manufacturer furnished the tools?  Plomb box, C-man tools inside?
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kw573

Hi Gentlemen,

There has been a bit of water under the bridge since my last post.
The MV tool specialists have come to the consensus that, as Plumb owned P&C tools, it probably had them originally in the box.
It is, apparently, a Plumb model 9990 box. It appears in the 1948 P&C catalogue, I'm told.

My realistic chance of assembling a P&C kit is a number approaching zero :rolleyes:. As I have, in my ignorance, already started on a period-correct Craftsman set, I'll continue. Note that the TM picture is indicative only, and there is a real chance that the box could have been filled by whatever brand was available at the time, or even a mixture of brands. Times were pressing!

Further, and some comments here are welcome, I'm told that there were no Craftsman-branded 3/4"dr. sockets in WW2, but that the circle K stuff (made by SK) is post war. So a suitable 'bedfellow' in a kit of Craftsman would be SK branded 3/4"dr. sockets.
What do you think?

Then, how do I identify that SK tools are WW2/1940s', and not pre- or post-war?

Yes, it is not perfect, but will have to do in the medium term.

Hope this helps.

Have a nice day.
Sam

john k

I don't think it would matter if they were pre-war.   With all the shortages during the war I imagine they would have grabbed whatever was still in the bins.  Seen later military sets that were a real mix, but the sizes were all there. 
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bill300d

No expert on the subject but my observation from gov paper lists and assembled kits I've seen there is almost always a mix of manufacturers They just used what ever was avaliable to assemble kits to send out.
A person who could really read human minds would be privileged to gaze on some correct imitations of chaos.