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Ho Hum, another framing square. BUT whats with all the notches??

Started by wrenchguy, December 09, 2011, 11:45:39 AM

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wrenchguy

A uncommon 24"x18" PS&W framing square with notches every 1/4". I wish I had the other part to this outfit. WHAT IS IT?? and why the notches?  24"x18" squares were the norm a 100 years ago with the advent of balloon framing.  Alot of old squares are cut down to 16" and its easy to tell.
Thanks & Good luck.


KeepinOldBolts

Run quick! It's a square for crafting. Before you know it, you'll be doing cross stitches, and quilting.

Just Friday humor for ya!
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Branson

I've got notches on the Hights Union Combination Square, too.  One of the steel square books will probably give the answer, but they probably provide a pivot point for some geometrical construction.

keykeeper

Was there any kind of a cross bar that would attach to both beams, and slide/lock up and down the notched beam making a pitch calculating gizmo of sorts?

Just my WAG......I have next to NO carpentry skills!!
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rusty


Put your pencil in the slot.
Slide the square down the edge of the plank.
Get a nice straight line parallel to the edge of the plank....

With a fixed square, you only get to do multiples of 1/4
With an adjustable square, you use the dimple in the end of the rule and do any
width you want....
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wrenchguy

Great guess's and humor. Not 4 crafts, nor pivot points but IS missing a gizmo.  The gizmo wasn't connected to the body or blade. (this is probably why the gizmo is missing).
Rustys comments are somewhat in line with what one would do with my missing gizmo.
Thanks.

Branson

Quote from: keykeeper on December 09, 2011, 07:00:37 PM
Was there any kind of a cross bar that would attach to both beams, and slide/lock up and down the notched beam making a pitch calculating gizmo of sorts?

Starrett made the No. 110 Stair Gage or "Fence" (see photo) but it doesn't use the notches.  It's simply an improvement on the buttons that clamp to the legs of the square for things like marking the cutouts for stair treads and risers.


keykeeper

Quote from: wrenchguy on December 09, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
Great guess's and humor. Not 4 crafts, nor pivot points but IS missing a gizmo.  The gizmo wasn't connected to the body or blade. (this is probably why the gizmo is missing).
Rustys comments are somewhat in line with what one would do with my missing gizmo.
Thanks.

I wasn't trying to be humorous in my use of "gizmo". Please excuse me if I offended you with my  hillbilly vernacular.

Just trying to work out in my head what this tool was used for, and in the absence of any other word to use for an unknown, un-named type of tool, all I could come up with was "gizmo".

Pardon my ignorance.
-Aaron C.

My vintage tool Want list:
Wards Master Quality 1/2" drive sockets (Need size 5/8), long extension, & speeder handle.
-Vlchek WB* series double box wrenches.
-Hinsdale double-box end round shank wrenches.

wrenchguy

Quote from: keykeeper on December 10, 2011, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: wrenchguy on December 09, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
Great guess's and humor. Not 4 crafts, nor pivot points but IS missing a gizmo.  The gizmo wasn't connected to the body or blade. (this is probably why the gizmo is missing).
Rustys comments are somewhat in line with what one would do with my missing gizmo.
Thanks.

I wasn't trying to be humorous in my use of "gizmo". Please excuse me if I offended you with my  hillbilly vernacular.

Just trying to work out in my head what this tool was used for, and in the absence of any other word to use for an unknown, un-named type of tool, all I could come up with was "gizmo".

Pardon my ignorance.

Never any offense taken, I love gizmo, flamshooter and rollscanhardly as some of the descriptive words used by engineers of the backyard.  I'm proud tobe a oversize elevated member of the nw indiana chapter.  The humor i recognized was something about crafts? which i didn't get....
Thanks for ur postings, Happy holidays and good luck.

rusty

>something about crafts? which i didn't get....

Remember those little square frames for weaving potholders out of circular elastic cloth bands? (I swear they were recycling pantyhose cutoffs by convincing everyone their kids would be amused for endless hours making an unlimited supply of potholders for poor mom...)
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

Branson


wrenchguy

Here's a link to the patent about the above square. I'm missing the scribes/awl.  I imagine its for timber framers. Oh and i'm not remembering anything about knitting potholders. thanks.
http://www.google.de/patents?id=GqFLAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

Aunt Phil

Quote from: rusty on December 10, 2011, 02:04:45 PM
>something about crafts? which i didn't get....

Remember those little square frames for weaving potholders out of circular elastic cloth bands? (I swear they were recycling pantyhose cutoffs by convincing everyone their kids would be amused for endless hours making an unlimited supply of potholders for poor mom...)

Couldn't have been pantihose cutoffs, those damn steel looms were around in the 50s, long before pantihose.

You ever get hit by the hook end of one of those in a fight?

Ever stood on a damn streetcorner trying to hustle those steenkin potholders to fund bringing Christmas presents to orphans knowing the dopey kids who spent months knocking them things out weren't going to see a penny.

Thanks for the memory!
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