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Whatsit Used For ?

Started by DobroDan, July 15, 2014, 09:18:45 PM

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DobroDan

Hi All:

First post.  I have a typical Schollhorn/ Bernard's parallel jaw pliers Pat. 1890, 1901 and 1903. I have seen many photos of these with all sorts of  "jaws " for different functions. This one is different in having rotating jaws that do 6 different functions. Also it is stamped LAKE-ERB MFG.CO. NEW YORK, N.Y.  U.S.A. under this are the 4 letters U.E.T.C. I have seen 1 other stamped LAKE-ERB but it was a single function pliers for crimping ends on wires.

Any info on it ?   Dan   

Mitch

It looks like a rotary hole punch for leather working.
Love my Bonney and Plvmb"s!

jimwrench

 Bernard made a No. 240 eyelet setter which had revolving heads and looks very similar to your tool.
Jim
Mr. Dollarwrench

DobroDan

Jimwrench:

3 of the 6 functions look like 3 different sized eyelet setters. the other functions are a 1/2 inch wide sharp cutter that hits a flat surface and a 1/2 inch wide by 3/16 inch long flat ended male part that fits snugly into a 3/16 inch female grove. The last one is a 1/2 inch wide male that fits into a larger female and when closed leaves a round opening about 3/16 in diameter.

Any idea what the last 2 are intended to do?  Thanks,  Dan 

jimwrench

 No clue but assume it would have a function related to what they were setting eyelets in.
Jim
Mr. Dollarwrench

rusty

Lake Erb Mfg is listed in the Auto trade magazine under 'Tools, Terminal forming'
So my guess would be a tool for forming brass wire end terminals of various types...

Here we go...

Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

DobroDan

rusty:

Thanks - I think you found the first model!! Mine appears to be a slightly improved one with an added ferule squeezer for smaller wires.

Do you have a approximate date for the ad that you sent?

Thanks again,  Dan

rusty

oops, sorry, the ad is from 1922 issue of The Automobile Trade Directory.
(Volume 20, Issue 1 , Page 875)

I see ad references only from 1921 to 1923...

Another mag notes: LAKE-ERB MFG. CO.. INC.—332 W. 58th St., New York. N. Y. Manufacturer of wire terminals. pliers. etc. President, James Lake. Jr.: vice-president and manager, George G. Erb; secretary and trrasurer, Alfred 0. Lake

(They moved from  405 Fourth street to 332 West 58th street in 1922)

They seem to have sold using the name B&E also
Also found them listed as making ammeters
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

pritch

I'm no help on the tool, but let's hear about the Dobro, Dan...

DobroDan

That's a long story, pritch, but I will tell you the next time we have a beer - OK?

I think rusty nailed that eyelet and ferrule pliers and it's time period. Goodonya rusty!!! To keep the thread alive here are a couple more Whatsit Used for's.

The first is marked :   NO  55     THE CARBORUNDUM COMPANY    NIAGARA FALLS  NY  USA  on the wooden part of the handle. the detachable end piece is marked ST97   498SH and the end is      1 3/4 inches in diameter, very smooth and slightly convex.  The other 5  end pieces would fit a handle with a smaller diameter. The three above are marked SMHS404-6, -5, and -4 (L to R). The two ends below are not marked.

The second is not marked and looks like a very large offset screw driver to me - compare him to his smaller cousin.  The ends are flat a little over an inch wide a little more than  1/8 inch thick.  Are there other uses ??? 

ron darner

Lower one makes me think of a drag link adjustment tool, though all I've seen were made as sockets with a giant screwdriver tip (straight blade).
Arrogance and Ignorance have more in common than their last four letters!

Chillylulu

The pins kind of remind me of punches, except they are so long....

Chilly

oldtools

Kind of looks like air impact tools with a hand driver tool...
Aloha!  the OldTool guy
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john k

The pins remind me of a valve guide installer set. 
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