old saw

[HeelSpur]

Anybody recognize this? don't see any visible markings and there is some black paint still on it. Don't know if that's original or not.

[Bill Houghton]

From here, it looks like a butcher's saw, but I can't help beyond that, and could, of course, be wrong.  I try to be wrong at least once a day, not generally a difficult goal to meet; maybe I got it out of the way early.

[rusty]

Does not match anything I have a picture of.

There are 2 very weird things about that saw.

The handle has no grip, and the wingnut is opposite the handle end.
Both are very rare features for hacksaws and butcher saws...

(round bar stock bent and squished is typical of some of the butcher saw old makers tho)

[Chillylulu]

Does not match anything I have a picture of.

There are 2 very weird things about that saw.

The handle has no grip, and the wingnut is opposite the handle end.
Both are very rare features for hacksaws and butcher saws...

(round bar stock bent and squished is typical of some of the butcher saw old makers tho)

Looks like a  modern hacksaw. Many have the tightening bolt on the far end.

Maybe this is newer and hand made by a blacksmith? That would explain all of Rusty's concerns.

Chilly

[leg17]

I doubt blacksmith made.
Looks like a casting.

[Chillylulu]

I doubt blacksmith made.
Looks like a casting.

 
I see that, but CI wouldn't have the structural strength, imho. In compression it is almost as strong as some steel,  but tensile strength isn't much better than some bone.  You can't work it, hot or cold. A ductile iron maybe, but it would be a strange application. Still might not be strong enough.

Cast lines would have to have been been cleaned up very well, but do that and leave the sand texture?

Do you thing that texture could be from patina / rust? Paint can do that to steel.

Chilly

BTW I only ever claim 85% accuracy.  Better double check anything I bring up, just to be safe.

[Bus]

It's a dehorning saw . I have several. see Sellens' Dictionary of American Hand Tools page 402.

[HeelSpur]

Thanks bus, I looked up dehorning saws and found quite a few of them.

[Branson]

Commonly offered as hacksaws.  Here are a couple that are clearly manufactured by Disston.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/98243249/wood-handle-disston-hack-saw-made-in-the
http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/1hbkc/items/1148951/en1cyberattic.html

[Chillylulu]

I doubt blacksmith made.
Looks like a casting.

Good eye!

Mallable Cast Iron, not cast iron. Much stronger and more flexible than cast iron.
Japanned instead of painted.

Here is a reference on a strange website, notice how the moderator likes blood and gore: http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=246.0 

Chilly

[Papaw]

Thanks for the memories, Chilly!

[Bus]

Commonly offered as hacksaws.  Here are a couple that are clearly manufactured by Disston.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/98243249/wood-handle-disston-hack-saw-made-in-the
http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/1hbkc/items/1148951/en1cyberattic.html

The Etsy seller is wrong that's not a hacksaw blade in that saw. I guess you could somehow fit a hacksaw blade in one and use it as a hacksaw but they were listed in old hardware catalogs as dehorning saws. Quite a few of my wrenches have been used as hammers but I still call them wrenches not hammers.

[jimwrench]

 Sellens must have used this saw for his picture;its a dead ringer except his has the Atkins logo.

[leg17]

 Quite a few of my wrenches have been used as hammers but I still call them wrenches not hammers.

Hey, there's only one real tool.
In the end, EVERYTHING is a hammer!

[rusty]

"Everything is a hammer....except a screwdriver, which is a chisel."