my first perfect handle

[benjy]

i see alot of these around but usually condition is against them.this is really neat
marked T NEWEY LTD.  the date stamp suprised me a little,how old do ya think it is guys?
measures 10 inches

[Papaw]

I don't see a date stamp. Where is it, and what is it?

[benjy]

as i said the date stamp suprised me,,and i just wondered how old you guys thought it was before i said what it was.

[Papaw]

Most of the monkey wrenches don't have date stamps, and I am not familiar with Newey, so I will have to guess early 1950s.

[Bus]

Looks fairly modern. I can't remember seeing a monkey wrench with the knife scale handles and three rivets. Usually either just one or two.

[v8garage]

Benjy,
Just to keep this straight that is a great looking tool and I would love to have it, but it is not a "Perfect Handle".  Perfect Handle tools were made by HD Smith.
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[rusty]

Hmm, dunno, 1854?

Thomas Newey is a very old Birmingham manufacturer that has been around since the mid 1700's.
And they are still around, so in theory, it could have been made last week - P

[Branson]

Coe's patent, stamped on the side of my 6" Coes, gives the patent date as 1800.

[scottg]

Coe really didn't make a perfect handle, neither is this wrench. It the same construction as a Coe. 
 The perfect handle is a forged single piece steel frame.

   Coe is partly forged, but the main bolster/screw socket holder at the top of the handle, as well as the little toe piece at the bottom, were through mortice and tenon, riveted on.
   yours Scott   

[benjy]

this one is dated 1959,,my inexperience told me that this style was alot older,,seems not.

[skipskip]

Benjy,
Just to keep this straight that is a great looking tool and I would love to have it, but it is not a "Perfect Handle".  Perfect Handle tools were made by HD Smith.
V/8

Is this strictly correct?  any tool that has that style handle ISNT a perfect handle unless it's made by HD smith?

What do we call the "others" then?

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[Papaw]

I've seen them called "knife handle", and the ones like H D Smith called Perfect Handle Type.

[1930]

Quote.....Is this strictly correct?  any tool that has that style handle ISNT a perfect handle unless it's made by HD smith?
I have old Maxwell literature that advertises tool-kits and they called for and showed pictures of the H.D smith perfect handle tools in some cases. They used both H.D Smith and Perfect handle term clearly. I know many of you know more about this than I do but the above answers were in my opinion un-specific so to clarify I would say that perfect handle was a trade-mark term used by H.D Smith that other picked up throughout the years as maybe time passed and it was allowed.

[Bus]

To avoid confusion most wrench collectors refer to the two piece scale handles as knife handles which is the term used in the old wrench catalogs and used Perfect Handle only for H. D Smith tools.

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To avoid confusion most wrench collectors refer to the two piece scale handles as knife handles which is the term used in the old wrench catalogs and used Perfect Handle only for H. D Smith tools.

thank you!!

my mind is at ease now... :)

but those guys in P.H.A.R.T.S. may have to change the name of  the group

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