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Offline lptools

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Beryllium Wrench
« on: February 27, 2015, 05:03:38 PM »
Hello, All. Went to Brooklyn this past weekend, for a family visit, and some government work. I visited the Brooklyn Flea, & found these 2 wrenches. The one at top is an AMPCO, definitely beryllium. . The one at bottom is supposedly, also a beryllium wrench, both from the home of a collector. My guess is a tank, or, hose coupling wrench? possibly railroad? Thanks, Lou
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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 05:19:57 PM »
That looks like a flywheel holder for small engines.

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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 06:19:29 PM »
A Briggs and Stratton flywheel holder and a recoil starter hub wrench. I sure could use those as B&S small gas engines are my second hobby.

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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 07:09:34 PM »
The Flywheel wrench is not Beryllium.
It is some bronze or brass alloy.

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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2015, 07:52:33 PM »
The Flywheel wrench is not Beryllium.
It is some bronze or brass alloy.

Maybe a dumb question, but why didn't they just make it from cast iron? Seems like it would have been less expensive that way.
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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2015, 09:27:18 PM »
Actually Ampco tools are an aluminum copper alloy and are Beryllium free.

The B & S tools are probably a plated ferrous alloy of some type as they look like they have rust on them.  Try a magnet on them and see what happens.  The Ampco wrench will be non magnetic.

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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2015, 09:29:03 PM »
The Flywheel wrench is not Beryllium.
It is some bronze or brass alloy.

Maybe a dumb question, but why didn't they just make it from cast iron? Seems like it would have been less expensive that way.

Maybe because the flywheel contains magnets which supply the spark (if their magneto driven engines) and any ferromagnetic material might affect those magnets? Plus, brass is softer - less possibility of damage to those parts if things slip. Just guessing.
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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2015, 10:55:23 PM »
At one one time brass was widely used for making things, but due to the cost of copper going up over the years they don't brass as much. I think the flywheel tool is made from aluminum nowadays. The flywheel holding tool is not needed to get the nut loose, but it cuts down on flywheel fin breakage by rookies. Early motors have a nut with left hand threads. Also i believe they come in several sizes due to different flywheel sizes.

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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 04:03:59 PM »
Hello, All. Thanks for the info on the B & S Flywheel wrench, I had my own doubts about the material. The open end wrench is clearly stamped BERYLLIUM, looks factory, but I have been fooled before. Here is an excerpt from an AMPCO Distributor FAQ page. Maybe the older wrenches had a higher beryllium content? Thanks again, Lou

I have heard that non-sparking tools are made from dangerous materials. Is this true?

Ampco Safety Tools manufacture approximately 98% of their products from alloys that pose no threat to the user's health. The remaining 2% of the product line is currently made from beryllium-copper alloys. Individuals with a hypersensitivity to beryllium can develop serious adverse health conditions due to inhalation of the metal in the form of dust. Beryllium is a known carcinogen and the U.S. Government is taking the appropriate steps to reduce the exposure limits to people working around or with the material. (Link to Department of Energy 10CFR Part 850, "Chronic Beryllium Disease Prevention Program.") Research and development projects are currently under way to replace our few items currently produced with beryllium copper. Please contact Ampco Safety Tools directly for more information regarding beryllium and its potential 
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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2015, 05:14:07 PM »
The following from the AMPCO site.

In 1914, inventor August Littman made an exciting discovery: a new bronze metal, hard enough to cut steel. The inventor and a small group of entrepreneurs formed the American Metal Products Company, and achieved recognized leadership in the production of aluminum bronze alloys.
The American Metal Products Company (later called "Ampco") produced the first-ever line of aluminum bronze safety hand tools in 1922. This marked the beginning of Ampco Safety Tools. The unmatched strength and durability of the aluminum bronze tools won quick acceptance in industrial markets.
Today, most of our safety tools are manufactured in Garland, Texas. Ampco Safety Tools continues our commitment to you with the highest quality safety tools and service.


Most of Ampco safety tools are available in aluminum bronze and other special copper alloys. Most of the tools are beryllium-free.

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Re: Beryllium Wrench
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2015, 08:01:11 PM »
"Beryllium" is generally actually a BeCu alloy only about 2% Beryllium and the rest copper with sometimes minor amounts of other alloying metals.
Beryllium Copper is stronger than most bronze alloys and is, or was, the metal of choice for tools in a spark free environment.
BeCu is also commonly used in plastic injection molds as the heat transfer is almost as good as pure copper but the strength is exponentially higher.
Pure Beryllium is rarely used in common industries, as far as I know, but it does show up in lab and experimental work, such as the atomic lab at Argonne Illinois.

Pure Beryllium DUST is the hazard.
Special precautions must be taken when grinding pure, or high percentage Beryllium but it does not come up much in the 'real world'.
BeCu alloys, such as the wrench above and most other common industrial settings are not particularly hazardous.

BUT, since pure Be can be a carcinogen, (if inhaled), our present social environment has resulted in somewhat of a stigma for BeCu.
Most applications have Be free alternatives available, that are not as efficient, but do satisfy the sticklers.
The suppliers have more than ample proof that BeCu is not hazardous, but they have yielded to public perception and offer the alternatives.
BeCu is still the alloy of choice for mold makers.
Sometimes you just have to keep your feet on the ground in a real world.

You will NOT get cooties by picking up that wrench!
Unless, of course, you melt it down, extract only the Beryllium, cool it off, grind it without liquid coolant, and snort the dust.

The flywheel wrench is likely a bronze.  I have borrowed one such in the past.
The one I have now is Aluminum.  Strong enough and cheaper.