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Offline NOT Northwoods

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strange woodworking tools
« on: August 06, 2015, 07:14:08 PM »
I'm wondering if someone knows what these items are. They have been in this old tool chest I have and I've never seen anything like them.  The tool chest is from early 19th century and most of contents are original yet with all wooden bodied planes if that helps date it. I'm sure that these things are original to the woodworkers trade somehow but they are complete puzzle to me. They are both well used it seems and polished along edges and especially top edge which is rather sharp. The one is bent as you can see.






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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2015, 08:45:42 AM »
First of all, let me say that this is the real and original Northwoods here.
I must say that I am flattered by your appropriating my name--a name I have used in chat rooms for nigh onto twenty years.  In fact, I urge all of Papa's crew to change their names to Northwoods (followed by consecutive numbers).
BTW, the tools are interesting.  Perhaps they are not for woodworking at all.  Could they have fit the curve of a previous owner's wife's derriere?
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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 11:22:06 AM »
It looks like the sort of thing I would use to weave together the strands of a rope or cane chair seat -- the curved stick to hold the strands apart, the straight ones to serve as shuttles. But that is purely a guess, and probably a wrong one.
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Offline Bill Houghton

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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 11:44:47 AM »
Interesting thingies.  I can't help on the purpose.

Some more detailed pictures of the tools might help us assign a date to the bulk of the tooling, although this looks like it could be a mixture of periods.  Some wooden planes were produced well into the 20th century.  In fact, EC Emmerich, in Germany, is still producing them.

Interesting looking tools (the background tools, not just your what's-it tools).  What looks like a marking gauge, visible in most of the pics, with a beam in what might be ebony - dark and red-brown wood - looks like a stunning piece.

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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 01:24:44 PM »
Saddler's stuffing tools????

Offline NOT Northwoods

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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2015, 07:58:56 PM »
It looks like the sort of thing I would use to weave together the strands of a rope or cane chair seat -- the curved stick to hold the strands apart, the straight ones to serve as shuttles. But that is purely a guess, and probably a wrong one.

I don't know why, but I was thinking of a caning tool also. They are both really polished along the edges and "blade" portion as if from long and repetitive use. Caning was the only thing that comes to my mind. Maybe for making weaving ash or white oak for chair seats? don't know.
Bill Houghton I'm almost certain that marking gauge is Lignum Vitae. I have used it several times in the past and my favorite mallets for driving chisels are all made from it. My dad used to work in paper mill here in Wisconsin and one time he saw a stick of it in a load of pulpwood. Him and some other guys divided it up so I have small supply yet. :) I can date the tool chest because I know who owned it and the time he was working. He was a local school principle, but was trained in woodworking or cabinet making at a young age. He lived from 1889 to 1942. It's from a local family. Lots of interesting things in it. Complete set of molding planes and a nice wooden plow plane. Also the stamp with his name on it that he signed his work with. Lots of other things including the patterns for crown molding and carious other moldings. The chest he made and is constructed of full 5/4   24" wide White Pine boards. The chest is the most beautiful thing I think. The lid has a nicely made raised panel. I'm thinking he made this during his apprenticeship.
Hey Northwoods, the real Northwoods... I didn't even notice you here. I've always used that name too.. for 20 years too. Didn't mean to step on your toes. :) I wonder if you really live in Northwoods? I live in Northern WI and have logged for 28 years. I live so far in the boonies once a year for a special occasion I drive to town and go to McDonalds.
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Offline Branson

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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 10:52:19 AM »
Saddler's stuffing tools????

That would be my thought.  Perhaps for stuffing horse collars.

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2015, 11:40:31 AM »
Hey, NOT,  yes, I live in the great north woods--of glacial Northeast Kansas. 
Seriously.  It is not the Kansas you see in Gunsmoke reruns.
Maybe I will pass through your territory next week on my annual trek to Duluth, sometimes along US-53 and points east, then on along the shores of Gitchegumme.  And then on to the Gunflint trail into the real north woods.  Looks like I better take my hoodie.
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Re: strange woodworking tools
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2015, 06:10:04 PM »
In explaining the dating discrepency - the 19th century includes the time from January 1st, 1800 and ended at midnight, December 31st, 1899.

The first century included yrs 1 through 99, 2nd century yrs 100 through 199, etc.

I think your first post meant early 20th century.  By tge way, we ae currently in the 21st century.

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