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Offline Twilight Fenrir

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Is this REALLY a coal scuttle?
« on: August 03, 2016, 07:17:41 PM »
Well, this might push the bounds of what qualifies as a tool, but it is still a tool, technically. :P I was poking around an antique shop a few weeks ago, and I saw this big, beautiful copper vessel. It looked pretty old to me, but the price tag on it was $8, so I had to buy it regardless.

Initially, I was told this was a coal scuttle... but, I just really can't see that being the case... It is an absolutely terrible design for scooping or pouring coal... plus, it's copper, I would expect it to dent and scratch to the moon and back, even with the relative softness of coal. There's an eBay listing for a very similar vessel, which is also marked as a coal scuttle... but again, it's all curves... how is this useful for that? I've also been informed that it's probably not as old as I think (Which, is actually a pretty rare thing for me, I usually have a good eye for what's old and what's not) and that it was likely made in the 1970's or 80s o.o (which, I guess would explain why it appears useless for its intended role, if it was made to be purely ornamental)

I have heard ONE alternate suggestion, that I think makes more sense, and that is that it was a vessel used for filling a bathtub back in the days before running water was common. The shape and form would suit this better to my eye, and the material of its construction would make more sense to me. I would say it probably doesn't have enough volume to make it an extremely practical filler, as I would guess its capacity at somewhere between 1 and two gallons... but, that IS a convenient carrying weight...

I bought it with the intention of reselling it, but if it's modern rubbish, I can make spoons and ladles out of all that copper :P So either way, it was worth buying. But now I'm curious.... Thoughts? Opinions? Facts? :P



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Re: Is this REALLY a coal scuttle?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 08:39:02 PM »
looks like a reproduction from a place called A & A imports.
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Re: Is this REALLY a coal scuttle?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 09:34:24 PM »
looks like a reproduction from a place called A & A imports.
Tried to look up their website, which I found, but in order to browse their stuff you have to have an account... But, I'd believe it. Is that an area you're familiar with?

It's a really impressive reproduction, the copper is actually pretty thick, and it's got beautifully brazed seams. The heavy porcelain handles are pretty much perfect. The copper that holds the lower handle is really nicely done, though the big brass handle on top does feel a little cheap by comparison. And I was suspicious of the hex acorn nuts keeping the handle on... Anything as old as it's pretending to be should be square, or riveted.

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Re: Is this REALLY a coal scuttle?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 09:57:17 PM »
Looks to be too ornate for coal,my guess would be a watering can for indoor plants.

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Re: Is this REALLY a coal scuttle?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 02:35:12 AM »
the brass reproduction stuff was popular 20-30 years ago, yes it's in St.L. and the wife used to go there, it's a wholesaler.
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Offline bill300d

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Re: Is this REALLY a coal scuttle?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 01:20:30 PM »
I have several containers similar to yours in design and construction and i am quite sure they are repro's from the 70's-80's.
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