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Offline Northwoods

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Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« on: November 18, 2016, 08:22:30 PM »
Got an old pair in a box purchase the other day.  I found a picture on Google Image the other day but it did not pan out.  And now it is nowhere to be found.
I need a patent wizard.

They are cast and nickel? plated.  Different patent dates on the center swivel.
One says PAT'D Feb 11 1902.
Other says PAT'D Oct 27 1903.

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Offline wvtools

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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2016, 09:06:37 PM »
You do not need to be a patent whiz to use the datamp.org website.  All you have to do is type in the patent date.

It is a jar wrench, not a piston ring compressor.

http://datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=742238&id=15807

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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2016, 03:22:25 PM »
Maybe it was patented as a jar wrench, but based on the other tools in the box, it is clear that it was being used as a piston ring compressor.
Other tools included an old school piston pin installer (Snap-on S9005), sockets, 2 T bars, speeder, Milwaukee Tool & Forge, squeeze-type valve spring tool, tap and die set, wrenches, etc.
The old boy who owned it adapted it for his own use.
Probably stole it from the kitchen!
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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2016, 09:08:31 PM »
Northwoods, sorry, but your spelling of stole is wrong.

the proper spelling is "borrowed"

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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2016, 07:00:29 AM »
The style that Bill posted are the only way to install some pistons on small engines, particularly two-strokes.  Some of my British motorcycles would also require the compressor to be removable from under the barrel.

I made a compressor band like that and used regular pliers to squeeze it - it worked well, but it would be nice to have the real tool.
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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2016, 11:35:06 AM »
I used to use hose clamps on air-cooled VW rings*, where you had to remove the compressor tool after you slid the cylinder down over the rings.

I've done it, on a BMW motorcycle, with carefully applied pressure from fingertips (fingernails, actually), lubricated by plentiful blue air**; but it helped that the cylinders on BMWs were tapered at the bottom, so the ring fed smoothly into the cylinder diameter.

*Not my idea; I learned it from a book.
**Air reaches its maximum lubricity at about turquoise.  Additional cursing applied after that just gums things up; when the air reaches navy blue, it's time to quit for the day.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2016, 11:53:07 AM by Bill Houghton »

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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2016, 02:01:06 PM »
Though I had real ring compressors, I often used hose clamps on motorcycles.
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Re: Vintage band type piston ring compressor pliers
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2016, 02:07:32 PM »
I had used the wind down / wrap around style, then got a set of lid removers and love them!
I don't have a pic of them, they have their own drawer in the old snappy box.
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