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Started by 1930, May 29, 2012, 05:56:24 PM

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1930

I need to make a clutch cable for my truck, we all have seen the steel cables with the barbs on the ends that I am assuming are squeezed on with some special tool, can anyone tell me what this tool is and where to get a couple of these barbs.

I dont plan on starting my own clutch cable buisness but I have asked around locally and gone on-line and cannot find anyone that makes these period so I need to make one withouth breaking the bank.

Any better suggestions would be appreciated, I pretty much wasted the long weekend trying to get a universal flexable cable to work that I bought at Napa but because the ends ( both ends ) are not flexible but instead stainless steel solid rods ( maybe it is designed for marine applications ) it will not work as there has to be flexability on both ends because of the ark of travel I have at the pedal and at the throwout fork.

Cable that I have now is 8 feet long and it is just enough I belive even if I cut the stainless ends off of it just until I got to the steel flex cable inside and hopefully re-attach something ( like the barb I mentioned possibly ) and then start all over again on mating these ends to the truck.
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

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Yers ago I repaired motorcycle cables by finding the correct ball or barrel and silver soldering them on. Nothing else seemed to work well or last very long.
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skipskip

Lowes here sells a swage tool that squeezes  lead pieces on cable to make eyes.


might work for you, but I cant visualize  what you are building.  have a pic you can  show us?
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1930

Quote from: Papaw on May 29, 2012, 09:03:59 PM
Yers ago I repaired motorcycle cables by finding the correct ball or barrel and silver soldering them on. Nothing else seemed to work well or last very long.
Video- http://youtu.be/F-gY27LTU2c
Thanks, yes that is my biggest concern, real stiff clutch in this truck, lot of force to move it, dont want it coming apart.
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

Quote from: skipskip on May 29, 2012, 09:21:05 PM
Lowes here sells a swage tool that squeezes  lead pieces on cable to make eyes.


might work for you, but I cant visualize  what you are building.  have a pic you can  show us?
Will post pic tonight, thanks for asking, you are right, that would help
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

lazyassforge

1930, here is a crude sketch of how we used to fix the cables on motorcycles when I used to do play at hillclimbing(hard on clutch levers, handlebars, and knees!

eddie hudson

What's the year, make and model of the truck?

1930

Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

I know the pict. are not the greatest, best I can do here. Picture 1 shows the truck, 52 F-7

Pict 2 and 3 show what I thought would work but as mentioned because both ends have no flexability and because there are defanite arcs of throw on each end all it pretty much wants to do is bind and put all sorts of strain on the firewall because that is the weakest mounting point.

The mounting bracket under the truck ( youll notice the throwout fork is not there but is sitting in the cab ) is just something I threw together and is only tacked in place. I can move that anywhere I need it.

The cable is of high quality along with its protective sheath, I am thinking I can use that cable, just need a to figure out a way to attach to steel balls maybe to each end of the cable and do away with the rigid stainless steel rods.

Then my next battle may be in having problems with not enough throw.

92-04 Mustangs ( might be off, something like that ) used a cable set-up but there fork was designed to pull the pressure plate into the clutch from the front whereas I am trying to pull the same from the rear. Wont work from the front.

I simply dont have room to use a mechanical linkage set-up unless I move the engine back a bit wich would mean starting from scratch on the engine mounts almost which I dont want to do.

At this point that is not an option, the more time I waste on figuring this out the more persistant I get on figuring it out.

I was told that early Mack trucks use a cable but no specific years were given because the guy tellin me wasnt making ten cents if he gave me that info.

If I could find a clutch cable, any clutch cable that was at least 8 feet long, 10 feet wouldnt be a problem than I will have won half the battle, I can make that work for sure, what I am trying to use was never intended as a clutch cable.

Any help as always appreciated
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

Quote from: lazyassforge on May 30, 2012, 09:33:08 AM
1930, here is a crude sketch of how we used to fix the cables on motorcycles when I used to do play at hillclimbing(hard on clutch levers, handlebars, and knees!
I like this, gives me more ideas and that is a help
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

1930

Quote from: eddie hudson on May 30, 2012, 11:21:36 AM
What's the year, make and model of the truck?
See above, thanks
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OilyRascal

Quote from: 1930 on May 30, 2012, 07:01:13 PM
If I could find a clutch cable, any clutch cable that was at least 8 feet long, 10 feet wouldnt be a problem than I will have won half the battle, I can make that work for sure, what I am trying to use was never intended as a clutch cable.

If a dig in the iron pastures would help you I'd be happy to assist, but I need a place to start other than laying on my back with rattlesnakes/copperheads under every old truck.
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1930

Open the hoods, look down approx where the pedals are in the firewall, if you see a bunch of steel linkages than its not what I am after, if you see a hydraulic master cylinder down there than its not what I am after, if you see a cable than we need to talk.

Thanks for the offer but dont put yourself out, you have already done more for me than I would have asked. Someone here thats already messed with this will figure it out.

I almost sent you those pict to post for me tonight BTW
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