What's It Socket? Possible stumper here, folks.

[keykeeper]

Found this in a box of odds and ends sockets I bought this past weekend at a neighboring community's "Town Wide" yard sale function.

-Male end is ~ 5/8" square.
-Female end is ~ 3/8" x 5/8" oblong.
-Overall length is ~ 1-3/4".
-Width at widest point is ~ 1-1/4"

Stamped with 500 over 1858 on the side.

Any ideas what it is and how it was used? I'm stumped.

[Neals]

Model T?  cap bolts for the main bearings had a similar shape. Not sure about the size

[Nolatoolguy]

Some sort of pipe plug maybe

[wvtools]

How about an adaptor for a jack so that you could put a ratchet on it?

[keykeeper]

How about an adaptor for a jack so that you could put a ratchet on it?

That is a good possibility, John. Only thing I see is that the square is right at 5/8. Not a very common ratchet drive size. Maybe to be used with a 5/8 square socket??

This one is a mystery. Hopefully, someone will have seen one before and be able to tell for certain what it is!

[wvtools]

Some of the old Mossberg ratchets that came in the sets had a 5/8 inch square hole.

[amertrac]

the female end looks like a screw jack . the spin type handle would fit in . then different sockets for wheel nuts   JMHO   bob w.

[strik9]

Ford T tool, I cannot recall what application exactly but the tool would fit a 5/8 female ratchet.

    The car was so popular for 30 odd years that there are a lot of tools out that are not well documented.    Made  by nearly every tool maker of the era.     
     Some are still produced to this day.

[humber2]

Any chance that's a bung plug socket from the Walden-Worcester Oval-Drive 5828 Socket series?

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/walden-worcester-p2.html

..about 1/2 way down the page.

[amertrac]

Any chance that's a bung plug socket from the Walden-Worcester Oval-Drive 5828 Socket series?

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/walden-worcester-p2.html

..about 1/2 way down the page.

I think you are right  bob w.

During the mid 1920s Walden received a patent for a configurable type of socket wrench, with the sockets secured to the handle by set-screws instead of being permanently mounted. This allowed a shop to make up its own special-use socket wrenches, combining the socket sizes most commonly used together. The design was covered by patent #1,596,708, issued to F.H. Bellows in 1926.

The idea seems not to have caught on though, as these tools appear to be very rare. However, we were able to acquire one of the special sockets used with these wrenches.

[keykeeper]

Any chance that's a bung plug socket from the Walden-Worcester Oval-Drive 5828 Socket series?

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/walden-worcester-p2.html

..about 1/2 way down the page.

I think you are right  bob w.

During the mid 1920s Walden received a patent for a configurable type of socket wrench, with the sockets secured to the handle by set-screws instead of being permanently mounted. This allowed a shop to make up its own special-use socket wrenches, combining the socket sizes most commonly used together. The design was covered by patent #1,596,708, issued to F.H. Bellows in 1926.

The idea seems not to have caught on though, as these tools appear to be very rare. However, we were able to acquire one of the special sockets used with these wrenches.

That's all pretty close, but no set screw to hold anything in the oval opening. I'm leaning toward some sort of square plug tool, driven by the oval drive.

[humber2]

That's all pretty close, but no set screw to hold anything in the oval opening. I'm leaning toward some sort of square plug tool, driven by the oval drive.

All seperatly found examples I have are plain.

No-one has found a socket with a set screw yet.

I think that only refers to the patent details.

[keykeeper]

Would love to find some documentation as to how this was used, or what tools looked like used with it.

Still having trouble figuring out how it goes, which is working end/which is drive in.