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Offline oldtools

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more free stuff..
« on: November 14, 2013, 04:11:35 AM »
Had to break up photos to fit size limits.. Also running out of space to store all these tools...
1st photo, bunch of old tools,  DBE from 1" to 1 1/2", 2 hack saws, 3" vice, hedge clipper, etc...
2nd & 3rd, bunch of tools, stones, saws, chisels, horse shoe monkey & adjustable wrenches, rasp, set of sockets SAE & MM, ratchet, pry bars, tin snips, Ace pipe wrench, etc... plus a tool box, pick ax, shovel, and 5 boxes  (~5 lbs. each) of assorted nuts & bolts..
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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2013, 08:52:25 AM »
Those two wood handled chisels look really delicious.  Will you be selling them?

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2013, 03:11:53 AM »
Branson, I got to ask my brother first, as he is the cabinet maker in the family..

But why so long? blade over 8" long, ~1/4" & 1/2" wide, 6" handle with some damage on 1/2" ...
shouldn't they have metal rings or caps on end? to keep handle from deforming.
No markings, but really good steel, keeps the edge...
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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2013, 09:08:00 AM »
Branson, I got to ask my brother first, as he is the cabinet maker in the family..

But why so long? blade over 8" long, ~1/4" & 1/2" wide, 6" handle with some damage on 1/2" ...
shouldn't they have metal rings or caps on end? to keep handle from deforming.
No markings, but really good steel, keeps the edge...

As I've just learned this morning, these are "long paring chisels."  You can buy whole sets of them.  As paring chisels, they won't  have metal at the top, as they are not used with heavy pounding, so there is no danger of deforming.   

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 01:31:00 AM »
Thank you Branson!!!  Just looked it up; Learning something new all the time... (Too bad the previous owner pounded on the 1/2" one)
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"Paring chisels are light, long, thin, almost flexible chisels which are never malleted. They are used primarily for carefully shaving off thin amounts of wood when fitting joints. The long length gives maximum control. One hand on the handle pushes the chisel forward while the other hand, up front on the blade, guides the cutting action. A classic use is to dress the sides of a mortise after roughly chopping it square with a mortise chisel. A secondary investment, very handy to have if you do a lot of joinery."
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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 10:21:29 AM »
Oldtools, I wish I'd had that definition handy a couple of days ago.  Scott G and I, and another fellow got in a bit of a jam on another list for suggesting these long bevelled jobs were not paring chisels by our definitions.  That dog is asleep now, and I won't wake it up again.

Another fellow admitted that they were advertised in ye olde days as "long millwright's chisels."  That brought back some of my memory.  Long millwright's chisels is how I've known them -- just haven't thought about that category in a long time.  I still disagree with the "long" in the definition of paring chisel.  Lots of chisels that are thin, not meant to be hammered, for dressing edges are really short.  But dressing is what they're designed to do.

"Never malleted" is too hopeful.  If you're doing a job, "never" is usually "discontinued."  One of my favorite paring chisels has been seriously used to chop some deep mortises (only chisel available, and the work had to be done) without any ill effects at all. 

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 02:40:08 PM »
Strelingers catalog (1897) shows "Long socket paring chisels" with round ended handles tho, the Millwright Chisels have leather nubs on the end of the handles for (I assume) gentle striking...

They are also with or without bevel edge,  this seems to be a new thing at the time, as other chisels are offered in new beveled style..."

Millwright chisels standard sizes are 8 and 10 "
Oddly, "Long Socket Paring Chisels" are also 8"

The description says 2 interesting things tho, "In weight between Socket Firmer and Framing Chisels" , and "Made from a bar of solid tool steel"

There are also Millwright Gouges...

Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 03:27:58 AM »
Thank you guys!! lots to digest, guess I need to start using them to get a feel for what they can do...
They do look more like Long beveled Paring Chisels, as most millwright chisels are heaver & have a cap or ring to strike on..
and these are light & Flexible with no reinforced end...
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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 09:26:41 AM »
They are also with or without bevel edge,  this seems to be a new thing at the time, as other chisels are offered in new beveled style..."


Can anyone supply a date of origin for the beveled style chisels?  I'd be very interested in something closer to a hard date.

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 05:21:12 AM »
Decided to take better photos of the chisels, looks like the handles had black printing on it, but can't make it out...
Any one know who made them?
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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 10:08:23 AM »
Decided to take better photos of the chisels, looks like the handles had black printing on it, but can't make it out...
Any one know who made them?

That's the Buck Brothers logo.  Top drawer chisels!

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 06:48:13 AM »
Thank you Branson, Looked up "Buck Brothers" very interesting sites...
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 08:49:09 AM »
My first Buck Brothers chisel came from a yard sale around 40 years ago.   I think I paid 25 cents for it.  5/8 paring chisel about 4 inches blade length.  There's no logo -- just stamped "cast steel" on one side, and Buck Brothers on the other.  It had no handle, so I made a simple octagon handle from a piece of an old broken hoe handle.  It's come to be one of my most favorite chisels.  It has pared, and it has been driven as well, even chopped mortises.  Still sharp, still has the handle I made all those year ago.  Keeps a great edge and is practically indestructible.   I have a number of Buck Bros chisels now, and one 4 inch draw knife.  I love them all.

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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 04:24:45 PM »
I tried them, great feel!!
Restoring a old Camphor wood chest, had to remove cracked brace Glue & fix it, they worked great to clean out the joints... 
I think I will become a collector of these!!.. (Still can't believe someone through them away..)
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Re: more free stuff..
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 08:18:25 PM »
don't underestimate the sharpening stone,i have sold several and they can bring good money...if you can id them properly.
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