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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nolatoolguy on January 11, 2013, 09:32:36 PM

Title: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Nolatoolguy on January 11, 2013, 09:32:36 PM
I have a chance at a old crescent table saw. I only got a couple problems.

No space, my dad already hates the fact Ime taking up half the garge. Second it would be a tight on the wallet to purchase better yet get running. The last big problem is I have no idea how I get it home.

Well i am considering, any thoughts.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: skipskip on January 11, 2013, 09:45:41 PM
Thats a monster saw.

a great collector item, but I have no facts about how well they cut.

It's on a trailer maybe the owner could deliver it?
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: RedVise on January 11, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
sounds like a project start, not an immediate available working tool.

Brian L.
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Post by: Neals on January 11, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
A lot better to consider before you buy than after you buy. I've tried it both ways.
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Post by: Bus on January 11, 2013, 11:24:48 PM
Is that a wrench hanging on the side? Is it marked?

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Post by: HeelSpur on January 12, 2013, 04:42:06 AM
I'd make room that is super cool.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Branson on January 12, 2013, 07:54:51 AM
That's an industrial grade table saw.  How big a blade will it swing?  Looks like a five horse motor, and I'll just about guarantee it originally ran on  a line-shaft system -- it was meant to.  No contractor table saw will begin to compete with what this will do.   This is what you find in a mill shop. 

What a beauty!  If you can manage at all, this is THE SAW.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: wrenchguy on January 12, 2013, 08:22:01 AM
r u  familiar with http://vintagemachinery.org/  the woodworking machinery pages r the best.  good luck
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: wrenchguy on January 12, 2013, 08:43:05 AM
That's an industrial grade table saw.  How big a blade will it swing?  Looks like a five horse motor, and I'll just about guarantee it originally ran on  a line-shaft system -- it was meant to.  No contractor table saw will begin to compete with what this will do.   This is what you find in a mill shop. 

What a beauty!  If you can manage at all, this is THE SAW.

i'd say with its one piece extended cast base its very early electric motor setup.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Brophy on January 12, 2013, 09:00:37 AM
That is a once in a lifetime find....and with the matching sander???

Awesome. Just frickin' awesome.

...Rob
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Nolatoolguy on January 12, 2013, 09:41:24 AM
As of now Looks like I won't be getting it.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Ietech on January 12, 2013, 11:18:27 PM
r u  familiar with http://vintagemachinery.org/  the woodworking machinery pages r the best.  good luck

Branson is correct but if it is 5 hp you better check that your elect panel will need a dedicated breaker/dual breakers, you will need a 40 amp 240VAC breaker and the motor will draw 22 amps under no load, locked rotor /startup will be significantly higher for a few seconds.  It is also possible that it is 3 phase and that is another ball of wax.

Don't get in over your head there are plenty of 110/120 VAC saws available at a good price and don't need any special attention. Of course if you want a learning project I think you just met a possible challenge. Good luck with that one --- it's kool but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, not even if it was free. JMHO -- If you really need a saw buy something that will run on existing elec available. If you want a long term project I think you found it. Old is Kool but "Function Rules" if you need to use it.

BTW I work with a guy who worked in a mill for ten years in the 60s/70s and he said that it probably used in a mill but it was a very small saw and he had never seen one that small actually in the mill he worked in northern CA. He said for normal everyday use and possible transportability to a job site it was pretty useless for a regular guy doing regular construction work. It's a fun project tho
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Ietech on January 13, 2013, 12:15:40 AM
Thats a monster saw.

a great collector item, but I have no facts about how well they cut.

It's on a trailer maybe the owner could deliver it?

Just curious how much are they asking for it --- ok if you don't want to reveal the price just curious
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Nolatoolguy on January 13, 2013, 01:44:51 AM
Thats a monster saw.

a great collector item, but I have no facts about how well they cut.

It's on a trailer maybe the owner could deliver it?

Just curious how much are they asking for it --- ok if you don't want to reveal the price just curious

Guy said on phone 150$ picked up no delivery.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: oldtools on January 13, 2013, 01:55:30 AM
That is a once in a lifetime find....and with the matching sander???

Was the Belt Sander & Drill Press part or the deal?
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: Nolatoolguy on January 13, 2013, 02:03:13 AM
That is a once in a lifetime find....and with the matching sander???

Was the Belt Sander & Drill Press part or the deal?

Nope, he said its not for sale, i asked
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Post by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 04:31:09 AM
Is that a wrench hanging on the side? Is it marked?
Thanks for the chuckle :)

Ole eagle eyes
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Post by: Branson on January 13, 2013, 08:43:33 AM
Branson is correct but if it is 5 hp you better check that your elect panel will need a dedicated breaker/dual breakers, you will need a 40 amp 240VAC breaker and the motor will draw 22 amps under no load, locked rotor /startup will be significantly higher for a few seconds.  It is also possible that it is 3 phase and that is another ball of wax.
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Oops!  I forgot about the three phase probability.   Back when I was using machines like this, we had a phase converter that generated a third leg.  Almost all of our machines ran on 5hp motors, except for the 30 inch planers, that ran on 25 hp monsters.
Title: Re: Am I really considering this......
Post by: rusty on January 13, 2013, 10:30:49 AM

What you would have had, is a Crescent Machine Company #2 Table saw with boring attachment.
The large base is to provide room for the attachment.
Date isn't known, but the #2 without the attachment is dated around 1910
That thing is likely over 100 years old.....

If you look closely at the OP photo, on the bottom of the side of the casting you can see the mfg logo cast in a large half circle .....