Wrench ID

[Papaw]

Who made this wrench? Style is definitely like ACME Twist Handle. Only mark I see is a 6 or 9, but the wrench is 8" long.

[bird]

Good grief......  I didn't think was a wrench you DIDN'T know about!!!!  Glad to find out your human, afterall!!!!
cheers
bird.

[Papaw]

You'd be surprised at what I don't know! I am only the guy who tries to get wrench folks together to expand our knowledge.

[bonneyman]

I looked around a bit, Noel. And all I could come up with is 1880's ACME wrenches.
Though, this ebay ad was interesting. Had 3 sizes, but the 8" long one has the adjustment nut on the back like yours. The other two have it on the front. The seller sounds like he knows the history of the things. maybe you could email him and pick his brain?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-set-of-3-Monkey-Wrench-w-Twisted-Handle-Rare-/111326889394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19eb9985b2

[HeelSpur]

There's a small antique store bout 20 miles from me that has a set of these (not like papaw's).
Said he wanted $15 a piece. I'll have to think about investigating them again.

[Art Rafael]

You'd be surprised at what I don't know! .

Well, Papaw,  as for me, there are things that I think I know and things that I know I don't know.  And there are things that I don't know that I don't know.  I keep rediscovering that the more I tune in to this Forum.   Nice wrench, by the way.   Ralph

[Carl Wagner]

Ive seen lots of old wrenches in my hunts and travels. Lots and lots. Ive never seen one (Acme) with that style of jaw. Pretty cool Papaw. CW

[Chillylulu]

You'd be surprised at what I don't know! .

Well, Papaw,  as for me, there are things that I think I know and things I don't know.  And there are things that I don't know that I don't know.  I keep rediscovering that the more I tune in to this Forum.   Nice wrench, by the way.   Ralph

I claim 85% accuracy, with the disclaimer that I never know when I am in the 15% zone and only within my areas of expertise / interest.  My 85% claim may be within the 15% area for all I know, but I figured a solid "B" average was okay.

That's one of the reasons I come here.  There is so much more to learn.

Maybe your wrench is for lefties, or could it possibly be an early example of a domestic metric wrench?  Am I now in the 15% for sure?

Chilly

[turnnut]

Papaw, most ACme wrenches that I have seen has the adjuster nut on the lower rod,
there were about 3 or 4 companies making the Acme wrench.

Whitman & Barnes Mfg. Co. New York, N.Y. put the adjuster nut on the top bar, but I
have not seen any pictures like yours. which seems to be a nut & pipe wrench.

will keep my eye out for any pictures,  Frank   

[rusty]

The ad on datamp says Hollands patent (Capitol Mfg) which adds a pipe jaw came in 5,10,12,15 inch. but yours is 8....(The Holland jaw is staked, but it says the 5 is different for bicycle spokes.)

I suppose 8" would be a bit large for bicycle spokes...
Plus the nut is on the wrong side...

Very odd variation....

[Papaw]

My memory is bad. Didn't I get this wrench from someone here?

[turnnut]

pat # 447,665 is like yours except that the nut is on the opposite rod.
March 3, 1891 by F.S. Cook and assigned to Capital Mfg. Co. Chicago, ILL

but refering back to my last post about Whitman & Barnes buying out the other
company that was making the Acme Wrenches and changing the nut location,
it is very possible that they also made this style.

hang onto that one.

bad memory ??  no, I would consider myself lucky if I could remember where I got
1 % of of my wrenches.

[Papaw]

That patent is for the pipe jaws.

[mvwcnews]

Never seen another like this one -- both jaws are for square nuts  (or square axle nuts) -- one side for gripping on the flats, the other to grab corners.  Possibly European rendition  of the ACME style?

I looked very hard, and never found what type of equipment was used to form the twist handle -- once Seymour's patent ran out anybody was free to produce the twist handle wrenches.

[Plyerman]

Never seen another like this one -- both jaws are for square nuts  (or square axle nuts) -- one side for gripping on the flats, the other to grab corners.  Possibly European rendition  of the ACME style?

I looked very hard, and never found what type of equipment was used to form the twist handle -- once Seymour's patent ran out anybody was free to produce the twist handle wrenches.

I've been wondering about twist handles myself lately. How the heck did they make such perfect twists on such large diameter wire 100+ years ago?? As a person who has spent a lifetime working with metals and machine shops, you would think I would know, but I don't.